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Piano purchase #2893218
09/22/19 08:37 PM
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Looking for some advice. My 11 and 8 year old have been playing the piano for over a year now and I am looking to getting one for the house. Currently they just practice on a piano during lessons at school and on a digital piano at home. A used Hallet Davis from 1994 is available nearby in excellent condition and regularly maintained. I am on a budget and wasn’t sure if this would be a good starter piano. Model number is 115WH. Any advice is appreciated.

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Re: Piano purchase [Re: Biggoof16] #2893224
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Grand or vertical? What is the size? What is the price? What is your budget?

Re: Piano purchase [Re: Biggoof16] #2893227
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Vertical 46”. Asking for $500 plus I will have to pay for moving. My budget is under $1000.

Re: Piano purchase [Re: Biggoof16] #2893255
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It might work as a starter piano. "Regularly maintained" to me means that all the keys and pedals are working, it's been tuned in the last 6 months, and the regulation and voicing are acceptably even. If you've verified that in person, great...if not, know that everyone says their used piano is in "excellent condition", while a very small percentage actually are!

At $1,000 "all-in" including purchase, moving, tuning, and any needed repairs, you do have to look very carefully to find something worthwhile in a used acoustic vertical piano. I assisted a relative with a similar budget who lives in Boston, and we were able to find something acceptable as a beginner instrument (it was a Baldwin "classic" furniture-style console from 2000), but it took a long while to find a good used piano among the junk listed online, and it's definitely a beginner-level piano, not something I'd want to see a quickly advancing intermediate or advanced student spending regular practice time playing.

For what it's worth, there are a lot of brand new digital piano setups (including a weighted, 88-key hammer action digital piano, stand, bench, and pedal) out there at $1,000 or less. I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it is a simpler solution on a limited budget.


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Re: Piano purchase [Re: Biggoof16] #2893465
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Thank you for the advice. I meant $1000 for the piano. The moving and tuning I figured would vary on the situation. Another option (not sure if it would be better) would be an Otto Altenburg AO-48. Not sure of the age of that one though. Have the serial # but having a hard time finding the information.

Re: Piano purchase [Re: Biggoof16] #2893475
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Many old pianos would be a waste of time.But any used piano will need a technician check!
Often an old piano will have pinblock problems which will cause the piano to be unable to hold
its tuning.Find pianos which are as new as possible,then have these checked before buying.

Re: Piano purchase [Re: Biggoof16] #2893479
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If it is $500 then that is the max you would be overpaying. You potentially could overpay by a lot more on a more expensive piano. Have a piano technician evaluate it. If you first can have someone who plays piano look at it, that could save the piano tech fee if it is not well maintained. If in good condition, that is a fine piano for beginning students.


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Originally Posted by Sweelinck
If it is $500 then that is the max you would be overpaying. You potentially could overpay by a lot more on a more expensive piano. Have a piano technician evaluate it. If you first can have someone who plays piano look at it, that could save the piano tech fee if it is not well maintained. If in good condition, that is a fine piano for beginning students.

Some damage like water damage is not easily spotted by a good pianist ,if the piano is newly tuned .

Re: Piano purchase [Re: Biggoof16] #2893516
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There are all sorts of things a technician may find that a pianist may miss. It is just a screening to avoid paying a technician if the instrument is obviously in poor condition.


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Re: Piano purchase [Re: terminaldegree] #2893632
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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
It might work as a starter piano. "Regularly maintained" to me means that all the keys and pedals are working, it's been tuned in the last 6 months, and the regulation and voicing are acceptably even. If you've verified that in person, great...if not, know that everyone says their used piano is in "excellent condition", while a very small percentage actually are!

At $1,000 "all-in" including purchase, moving, tuning, and any needed repairs, you do have to look very carefully to find something worthwhile in a used acoustic vertical piano. I assisted a relative with a similar budget who lives in Boston, and we were able to find something acceptable as a beginner instrument (it was a Baldwin "classic" furniture-style console from 2000), but it took a long while to find a good used piano among the junk listed online, and it's definitely a beginner-level piano, not something I'd want to see a quickly advancing intermediate or advanced student spending regular practice time playing.

For what it's worth, there are a lot of brand new digital piano setups (including a weighted, 88-key hammer action digital piano, stand, bench, and pedal) out there at $1,000 or less. I know that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it is a simpler solution on a limited budget.

I think she said the kids are already practicing on a digital piano at home. Perhaps their teachers advised her to transition them to an acoustic piano.

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Re: Piano purchase [Re: Biggoof16] #2893694
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Yes. We would like to transition to an acoustic piano if possible. Obviously looking for something serviceable for at least a few years. If they continue to enjoy it and develop we will then pursue a better option.


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