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Recommendation #2892606
09/21/19 09:28 AM
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Hi,

My daughter wants an electronic keyboard that she can learn to play on. I was looking for recommendations on what to get, I have seen the ones with light up keys but I guess you are limited to what you can learn on them?

Any recommendations would be great.

Thanks,

Aaron

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Re: Recommendation [Re: Azz25] #2892607
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Originally Posted by Azz25
Hi,

My daughter wants an electronic keyboard that she can learn to play on. I was looking for recommendations on what to get, I have seen the ones with light up keys but I guess you are limited to what you can learn on them?

Any recommendations would be great.

Thanks,

Aaron
Hi Aaron,

How old is your daughter? Did you have an estimated budget in mind?


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Re: Recommendation [Re: Azz25] #2892610
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Originally Posted by Azz25
Hi,

My daughter wants an electronic keyboard that she can learn to play on. I was looking for recommendations on what to get, I have seen the ones with light up keys but I guess you are limited to what you can learn on them?

Any recommendations would be great.

Thanks,

Aaron

Also is she trying to learn "electronic keyboard" (pop, rock, other synth stuff, etc.) or is she trying to learn "piano"? Two differences is fully weighted, semi-weighted, or unweighted keys, and another is number of keys (learning piano requires a keyboard with 88 keys) whereas learning keyboards often is done on much smaller keyboards.


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Re: Recommendation [Re: Azz25] #2892611
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Does she speak/read English?

If a keyboard has any educational features (as some do) they are probably only in English.

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Thanks for the replies.

She is 14.
Budget is as cheap as possible for now just to learn on.

She has asked for an "electronic keyboard", not sure if she knows what the difference is yet.

The other thing I was curious about is is there a light up keyboard that you can put your own songs on to learn?

Thanks again.

Aaron

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Originally Posted by Azz25
She has asked for an "electronic keyboard", not sure if she knows what the difference is yet.

You really should ask her what type of music she wants to learn to play. Ask her for some examples of some actual pieces songs. That will determine whether she needs a piano or a keyboard.


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Re: Recommendation [Re: Azz25] #2892622
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If you can afford about $1,000 I would suggest getting maybe a Kawai KDP-110, a Yamaha YDP-144 or a Casio PX-870. Those are digital pianos she could grow into and actually learn on. There are cheaper alternatives, but if her goal is to actually learn how to play a piano she's going to need 88 weighted keys, pedals etc. I think it would be best to go to a musical instrument dealer and try various types out.

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I second the recommendation to all whether she wants to learn to play piano, or a keyboard (like in a band), since these are two different paths. We here are more interested in piano, if you haven't already guessed smile

For a beginner who may not stay with it, it might make sense to get a cheaper, used digital piano. You'll want something that has "hammer weighted keys" and the full range of 88 keys, since these will more precisely replicate the feel of a real piano.

I'd look for deals on Craigslist for a Yamaha P-45, P-71 or P-115, or a Casio PX-150 or PX-160. The Roland FP-30 and Kawai ES-100 or 110 are also good options, albeit slightly more expensive.

If you buy a used recent model, you can always recoup more of your spend if you either upgrade later, out sell it if she is uninterested.


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Re: Recommendation [Re: Azz25] #2892627
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Will your learn by ear or does she or will she learn to read music?

Also if she is interested in more keyboard type instruments this is a good site to ask questions.

http://forums.musicplayer.com/ubbthreads.php/forums/18/1

If you live in USA, Sam Ash Music or Guitar Center has preowned keyboards for sale to take a look at.

I have both synth action keyboards and full weighted 88 keyboard too. Go dig a little deeper about what see wants to do.

Also at 14 is she in High School? My daughters High School has an awesome music program. Maybe contact the music teacher of the school too for advice.


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There is this from Casio with lighted keys.

https://www.casiomusicgear.com/products/casiotone-series/lk-s250

I don't know anything about it. I'm old school and I learn piano the old fashioned way. I;m also not a spring chicken smile

Casio also has a forum to ask questions: https://www.casiomusicforums.com/

Good luck and I hope your daughter finds a piano/keyboard to learn on and stays with it. It is a great hobby for a lifetime!


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I think the best 88 keys digital piano in the ~500 euro range is the Yamaha P125. IMHO much better sounding than the Kawai ES110 or the Roland FP30. Actions are ok in all those models. The Casio PX-160 is the cheapest but to me is the worst sounding of all.

Re: Recommendation [Re: EPW] #2892676
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Originally Posted by EPW
. . .

If you live in USA, Sam Ash Music or Guitar Center has preowned keyboards for sale to take a look at.

I have both synth action keyboards and full weighted 88 keyboard too. Go dig a little deeper about what see wants to do.
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+1.

IMHO, "lighted keys" is a frill, and may be harmful. But I'm biased by my own experience.

At the lowest level I'd recommend, check out Yamaha PSR-3xx or PSR-4xx keyboards. Widely available, new and used, lightweight and portable. Add the cost of a "double-braced X-stand", and a pedal (if the keyboard doesn't come with one).

If she gets into traditional piano music, you will need an 88-key, "weighted-action" "digital piano". But a PSR-3xx is still handy to carry around.


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Re: Recommendation [Re: Azz25] #2892894
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Originally Posted by Azz25
Thanks for the replies.

She is 14.
Budget is as cheap as possible for now just to learn on.

Take her to compare the Roland FP-10 and FP-30.

Last edited by Burkie; 09/22/19 02:05 AM.

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