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Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 #2892111
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After nearly two weeks of learning how to adjust all the various settings on my GP-500 I am at a point where I really like the settings. Not saying a few more tweaks would make it even better, but it’s very close. I now like the sound from the internal speakers as much as through headphones.

It would be impossible to really appreciate the full capabilities of this instrument in a shop with people adjusting and changing things. There is one effect called “Chorus” that was a big stumbling block for me. The manual description says “Adds more breath” to your notes. Well it gives a slight distortion to the sound IMO. Initially, I did not touch that effect since I didn’t know what it did. I kept going through everything I adjusted and still didn’t like everything 100%. Then I changed this effect and everything else went into balance. Also selecting “remove lid” improved things over “fully open.”

Now each piano variety plays very well. The Bechstein is the nicest for Debussy over the Steinway and Bösendorfer. It’s the peddling harmonics that really do it. Debussy played on a Bechstein and actually wrote for the affects best suited for this instrument. The sound is more muddy with the other two pianos if you strictly use the phrasing he suggests. The amount of sustain through the pedal is quite different between each piano. It really plays like the instrument selected.

I find that the various hall-sound simulators add too much echo for my taste. I haven’t tried the “Stretch Tune” and haven’t made any changes to the “Temperament of the Keyboard” at this point. I’m not even sure what they mean.

There is a Casio YouTube lesson that I found that gave me the help I really needed to make all these changes. It is over 40 minutes addressing the effects. The manual does not really do a good job.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892113
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I am looking forward to hearing recordings of your playing with you selecting the different pianos with your favourite settings for each piece.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892118
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Using chorus effect on an acoustic piano is a blasphemy. But if you like it, who am I to say what you must never apply to an acoustic piano sound smile


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: KevinM] #2892119
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I do not know how to do all that. Another learning curve, lol. What might be good is doing the same thing on each piano highlighting the differences between them.

Originally Posted by KevinM
I am looking forward to hearing recordings of your playing with you selecting the different pianos with your favourite settings for each piece.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: CyberGene] #2892123
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Using chorus effect on an acoustic piano is a blasphemy. But if you like it, who am I to say what you must never apply to an acoustic piano sound smile


My thought is they should take out this effect. There is NO acoustic keyboard that makes this terrible sound. For many years I sang tenor in performing master chorales and this effect does not sound like a human voice under any circumstances.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892126
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Is it too early to derail this thread? I’ll be in my corner-office waiting; don’t hesitate to knock. smirk

Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892128
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Wait Pete14, you got a corner office. I'm stuck in my cubicle frown


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892129
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....and the derailment begins.... laugh

Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892133
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How did trains get into this GP500 thread?
Does the GP500 has a choo-choo sound.

Sorry Tenor1, enjoy your piano and we look forward to the time you do feel confident to post some of your music.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: EPW] #2892135
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Originally Posted by EPW
How did trains get into this GP500 thread?
Does the GP500 has a choo-choo sound.

Sorry Tenor1, enjoy your piano and we look forward to the time you do feel confident to post some of your music.


I’ve decided to leave this forum. There are so many rude members that it isn’t worth being around all the negative energy. I am returning to the piano after being away from it for many years. I studied at the Mozarteum and even there never was confronted by such hostile people.

I don’t think I would be learning much here and can better spend my time at the keyboard.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892137
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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892152
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Sorry you feel that way.
Funny you quote me while others were poking fun at you for the last several weeks. I'm happy you are enjoying your piano and good luck regaining your skills.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892173
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Pete is as useless as they come, he should be ignored.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Tenor1] #2892204
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Originally Posted by Tenor1
I’ve decided to leave this forum. There are so many rude members that it isn’t worth being around all the negative energy. I am returning to the piano after being away from it for many years. I studied at the Mozarteum and even there never was confronted by such hostile people.

I don’t think I would be learning much here and can better spend my time at the keyboard.


I believe we all could spend our time better at the piano than here on the web. But on the other hand, from time to time good things do arise from being part of such a community as this one.

I for one have appreciated your posts, not least because you seem unassailable by the troll demons who seem occasionally to control some other members writings.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Learux] #2892212
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Originally Posted by Learux
Pete is as useless as they come, he should be ignored.



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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: CyberGene] #2892248
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Using chorus effect on an acoustic piano is a blasphemy. But if you like it, who am I to say what you must never apply to an acoustic piano sound smile



You mean like this Blasphemy, (at 1.58) ...



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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Doug M.] #2892249
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Originally Posted by Doug M.
Originally Posted by CyberGene
Using chorus effect on an acoustic piano is a blasphemy. But if you like it, who am I to say what you must never apply to an acoustic piano sound smile



You mean like this Blasphemy, (at 1.58) ...



That isn't a chorus effect.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Learux] #2892250
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Originally Posted by Learux
Pete is as useless as they come, he should be ignored.



Reluctantly I'm starting to agree. Has a tendency to flame every thread with total nonsense or deliberately provocative statements. It was predictable. Now it's getting boring.


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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: Doug M.] #2892253
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Originally Posted by Doug M.
Originally Posted by CyberGene
Using chorus effect on an acoustic piano is a blasphemy. But if you like it, who am I to say what you must never apply to an acoustic piano sound smile



You mean like this Blasphemy, (at 1.58) ...

That sounds like flanger not chorus. But anyway, believe me or not, I was gonna mention Elton John as an exception in my first post. I like Elton John and how his piano sounds. My point was rather in the context of the constant pursuit for realistic acoustic piano sound here on the forum. In that context Chorus or any other effect is a blasphemy laugh But there are countless examples in pop music that demonstrate how various effect can sound good even when applied on top of an acoustic piano. That being said, chorus was mostly used on Rhodes piano ballads and to a lesser degree on CP80 to make it sound a bit more stereo. I think I've rarely heard chorus on acoustic pianos. I need to check some of the smooth jazz records such as Bob James, Fourplay, etc. because I think I might have heard chorus.

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Re: Finally Got Good Settings for My Casio GP-500 [Re: CyberGene] #2892254
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Using chorus effect on an acoustic piano is a blasphemy. But if you like it, who am I to say what you must never apply to an acoustic piano sound smile



You mean like this Blasphemy, (at 1.58) ...

That sounds like flanger not chorus. But anyway, believe me or not, I was gonna mention Elton John as an exception in my first post. I like Elton John and how his piano sounds. My point was rather in the context of the constant pursuit for realistic acoustic piano sound here on the forum. In that context Chorus or any other effect is a blasphemy laugh But there are countless examples in the pop music and I think many of them do good. Yet, chorus was mostly used on Rhodes piano ballads and to a lesser degree on CP80 to make it sound a bit more stereo.


Yes, there's analogue chorus on my old RD-1000 (which is mono) so the chorus does add some pseudo-stereo depth and a bit of warmth so I always use chorus on that thing. For a really good acoustic piano sound though chorus is indeed a bit of a blasphemy. And yes, that Elton sound is a flanger or phaser or whatever (on a Steinway), definitely not chorus.


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