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Does anyone know 1066 pianos by reputation or experience? #2892056
09/19/19 03:00 PM
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I've finally moved into a detached house with a decent sized room and can realize my dream of buying an acoustic piano. I've been looking at grands for about a year now, but was beginning to despair that I would find "the one". This has included playing top of the range pianos beyond my budget. I decided to look at rebuilt pianos and came across a 1920s Steinway M at 1066 pianos in Cambridge, UK. It has been essentially rebuilt, but retains its original, repaired sound board and the original frame. They have not used 100% Steinway parts. However, it was love at first play!

I am looking at it again with an independent technician and am seriously considering purchase. A local Steinway dealer has, however, advised against the purchase and I am aware of some of the issues and controversies that surround rebuilt Steinways. My feeling is that if the piano sounds how I want it and can retain that sound, then that is all that matters.

I was wondering if anyone knew 1066 in Cambridge, either from direct experience or by reputation. If I knew that they had a strong reputation (e.g. such as that which is attached to somewhere like Faust Harrison or Cunningham in the U.S.), that would give me some peace of mind. Really grateful for any advice.

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Re: Does anyone know 1066 pianos by reputation or experience? [Re: Chappers] #2892062
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Yes. We had a Steinway A that was rebuilt by 1066. It was an exceptional piano that sold for $35,000 and was worth every penny.


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Re: Does anyone know 1066 pianos by reputation or experience? [Re: Chappers] #2892125
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Of course the Steinway dealer discouraged you! It seems that the official Steinway party line is that if a Steinway is rebuilt by Steinway, it's still a Steinway. Rebuilt by anyone else, it becomes what they call a Stein-was. They seem to think, and rightly no doubt, that rebuilt Steinways are eating into their profits, so they have an all-out publicity war against rebuilders to make you believe these rebuilt Steinways are not really Steinways anymore. They won't sell a Steinway soundboard to an independent rebuilder. Recently they have refused to sell Steinway soundboard decals to independent rebuilders.

It's all nonsense. No other piano maker even bothers themselves with rebuilders. I suppose one could make an argument about at least using Steinway parts in a rebuild...but many rebuilders actually prefer using parts from other manufacturers -- sometimes because they are cheaper, but often because they are better.

If you like the Steinway you found, and an independent technician has inspected it, then buy it. Ignore the Steinway dealer.


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Re: Does anyone know 1066 pianos by reputation or experience? [Re: Steve Cohen] #2892130
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Steve,

Thank you so much for your reply. That is very reassuring to hear, particularly coming from someone of your knowledge and experience.

Re: Does anyone know 1066 pianos by reputation or experience? [Re: AaronSF] #2892132
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AaronSF,

Yes, there does indeed appear to be a party line. It does make the whole process somewhat exhausting.

BTW, intrigued to see you have an August Foerster. I tried one during my search and thought it was an incredibly beautiful, pure sound. However, I personally could not control it at all and I concluded it was only for thd very best pianists. How do you find it?

Re: Does anyone know 1066 pianos by reputation or experience? [Re: Chappers] #2892381
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Chappers--

What size August Förster did you play? You know, you could "grow into" the action...just saying! smile

I love my August Förster! I played a lot "Tier 1" pianos before finding this AF 215 at a dealer who also had Blüthners, Schimmels, a couple of Steinways, and some new Faziolis. The AF 215 really wowed me with, as you put it, its "incredibly beautiful, pure sound." Couldn't agree more. I found the Renner action the smoothest I had played, and it allows me to play from the softest ppp to the loudest fff, and fast or slow or in between. I think it's one of the finest instruments I've ever played. True, I played a couple of very well maintained Steinway Ds during my search, and those 2 Ds were really incredible. I also played a lot of Bs in various states of restoration. Not a one of them compared to the AF 215. However, I have played some fabulous rebuilt Bs, so a lot depends on the rebuilder.

It sounds like the Steinway M you found has had a proper rebuild, so if you like it, go for it!


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