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Kawai CS8 and ES8 #2891841
09/18/19 08:39 PM
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Is a CS 8 comparable to an ES8? I mean in the same way that the Yamaha CLP645 is about the same as a P515. Also, has the CS8 been discontinued by Kawai? Still trying to gather information about these pianos to make a decision on what to buy and to determine a fair price. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Kawai CS8 and ES8 [Re: Dkrs60] #2891852
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Originally Posted by Dkrs60
Is a CS 8 comparable to an ES8? I mean in the same way that the Yamaha CLP645 is about the same as a P515. Also, has the CS8 been discontinued by Kawai? Still trying to gather information about these pianos to make a decision on what to buy and to determine a fair price. Thanks for your help.


I believe the ES8 and CS8 have the same sound engine (HI-XL) so the pianos are the same and will sound the same given the same speakers/headphones. The action of course is different. The ES8 has Kawai's best plastic folded action (RHIII) while the CS8 has Kawai's best wooden key digital action (GF2), and here the difference is pretty significant IMO. Of course, Kawai's wooden key actions are very heavy so you'd have to go to the MP11SE to get that in a slab.

I don't know if the CS8 is "discontinued," but it hasn't been updated according to the expected schedule, and some folks think the CS series will pretty much be discontinued for the Aures hybrid.


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Re: Kawai CS8 and ES8 [Re: Gombessa] #2891868
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Originally Posted by Gombessa
and some folks think the CS series will pretty much be discontinued for the Aures hybrid.

Did you mean "Novus hybrid"? smile

Re: Kawai CS8 and ES8 [Re: JoBert] #2891871
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Originally Posted by JoBert
Originally Posted by Gombessa
and some folks think the CS series will pretty much be discontinued for the Aures hybrid.

Did you mean "Novus hybrid"? smile


Novus NV5, yes. Oops!


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Re: Kawai CS8 and ES8 [Re: Dkrs60] #2891895
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Dkrs60, Gombessa answered your question regarding the similarities/differences between the CS8 and ES8.

The CS8 is essentially the CA67 in a more impressive ebony polished cabinet. This instrument has been discontinued by Kawai.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Kawai CS8 and ES8 [Re: Dkrs60] #2892086
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Thank you for your replies.


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