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Printing on uncoated paper? #2890985
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For various reasons, I prefer music on uncoated paper (like the kind of paper books are usually printed on, versus copy/printer paper that has a coating, I gather because it's easier to print on.) I find it lies better, it's easier to read under different lighting conditions, and it's easier to grab and turn pages.

Now that I have all kinds of digital sheet music that can be printed, I'd love to be able to print it on uncoated paper. My understanding is I can't do this with my regular ink jet printer. What are my options? Are there any printer technologies that allow this? Are there print shops that will do small print jobs on uncoated paper?

And yes, I'm sticking with dead trees rather than LCD's. I've tried LCD and it just doesn't work for me, again for various reasons.

Would love any ideas or suggestions!


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Re: Printing on uncoated paper? [Re: Chrispy] #2890989
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You can buy uncoated paper made for laser printers. So if you get a laser printer and some of that paper you should be all set.


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Re: Printing on uncoated paper? [Re: Chrispy] #2891021
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I use resume paper for sheet music I want to keep...then place it in a spiral binding. Office Depot will do this for a small charge; it may be worth it if you have enough to print.

One day, I bought a ream (500 p) of high quality, heavy, ivory colored paper (easier on the eyes than white), had them punch holes in the entire thing, and now I print it with my own Brother laser printer, so I can add to my spiral bound book.


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Re: Printing on uncoated paper? [Re: Chrispy] #2891032
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How does the laser printer compatible uncoated paper feel compared to, say, Henle paper? The paper used by Henle is really, really nice and I'd like to get as close to that as possible, but I don't know anything about paper so I'm not even sure what to look for laugh

And, thanks, I'd never heard of "resume paper" before, so I'll take a look at that.


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Re: Printing on uncoated paper? [Re: Chrispy] #2891042
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I googled where Kitsap County is and seeing you are in Seattle area. Take a small drive to Office Depot etc and have a look for yourself. I have some 28lb weight paper that I use for sheet music through the laser printer. I like the extra weight of the paper because it doesn't curl up easily. I have some Ivory colored paper too that is 24lb weight that I printed out for special church services. One of the churches has harsh lighting. Why? I don't know but it just does. Anyway the ivory color made the music easier for me to read smile

Also I had luck in the past with some specialty paper from this company;

https://www.paperdirect.com/stationery/business-stationery/plain-papers

I see they have 28lb plain paper in off white colors still smile

I have a nice HP laserjet printer. I won't go back to an inkjet printer for my sheet music. I have the option to print on both sides of the paper too. The 24lb and 28lb paper are fine for this.


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Re: Printing on uncoated paper? [Re: Chrispy] #2891189
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Originally Posted by Chrispy
How does the laser printer compatible uncoated paper feel compared to, say, Henle paper? The paper used by Henle is really, really nice and I'd like to get as close to that as possible, but I don't know anything about paper so I'm not even sure what to look for laugh


I assume that Henle either uses an offset printer or maybe a high volume laser printer. If so the Henle paper would then most likely be uncoated and fit for a laser printer.

But you might have some size/weight limits on a normal laser printer. And you still need to find the plain paper that matches Henle's. Maybe a good print shop can help you finding the matching paper.

Maybe Henle coats it with something *after* the printing to give it more gloss/feel/whatever. This would make it tricky to do with a normal laser printer. I'm not aware of normal print shops doing custom coatings but who knows.


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Re: Printing on uncoated paper? [Re: Chrispy] #2891356
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If it gets more expensive than just buying the Henle there's no point laugh But that's good info, thanks!


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what coating does printing paper have ? i thought all paper was paper, what is the difference.

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Doing a bit of research wondering why copy paper felt different than โ€œbookโ€ paper, it turns out copy and printer paper is coated with clay which helps prevent ink separation. Thatโ€™s why itโ€™s stiffer and shinier than you see in a book or a newspaper.


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Thank you. Iโ€™m not good at technology. I donโ€™t use iPad or paper. I prefer the original stone scores from the baroque era.

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Originally Posted by Moo :)
Thank you. Iโ€™m not good at technology. I donโ€™t use iPad or paper. I prefer the original stone scores from the baroque era.



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Originally Posted by Moo :)
Thank you. Iโ€™m not good at technology. I donโ€™t use iPad or paper. I prefer the original stone scores from the baroque era.

The stone scores go right next to your CD player of that era? wink


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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by Moo :)
Thank you. Iโ€™m not good at technology. I donโ€™t use iPad or paper. I prefer the original stone scores from the baroque era.

The stone scores go right next to your CD player of that era? wink


Hey, I resemble that remark...


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A lot of people seem to be talking about paper for laser printers. The OP has an ink printer. The technology is different, so the paper is different. Ink is liquid: laser printers use toner which is kind of like plastic grains that get baked on through heat. The place to ask is probably a good office supply store, in the electronics (printers) department, making sure you get someone who actually understands things. You'll want to tell them that you have an ink printer, what type of effect you are looking for paper-wise, and which types of paper will come closest to giving you that effect.

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Originally Posted by keystring
A lot of people seem to be talking about paper for laser printers. The OP has an ink printer. The technology is different, so the paper is different. Ink is liquid: laser printers use toner which is kind of like plastic grains that get baked on through heat. The place to ask is probably a good office supply store, in the electronics (printers) department, making sure you get someone who actually understands things. You'll want to tell them that you have an ink printer, what type of effect you are looking for paper-wise, and which types of paper will come closest to giving you that effect.


The initial post from the OP stated an ink jet printer is owned but it is recognized that an ink jet would not work.


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Originally Posted by Moo :)
what coating does printing paper have ? i thought all paper was paper, what is the difference.


There are many different coatings, to increase gloss, to make paper look "super white", to give texture, to reduce fingerprints, to change the flow (of inkjet ink), to protect colors against UV radiation, to protect against water, etc.

Also there are many differnet types of papers, different sizes, different thicknesses, different constitutions (wood pulp, cotton, plastics) etc


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