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Grado Headphones - Factory Tour #2886624
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I thought you all may like this video ... Grado headphones and cartridges are made in Brooklyn NYC, all hand made, and family run for years. No, this video does not mean you will like their product, but if you want, or value, an all American product, you will like this video. They go into the "headphone department at about 23:30 or so.

Grado made it big in the 1970s with cartridges (these are the things that play vinyl records!!). I found their product all have a "natural" comfortable sound. Once i owned a Grado cartridge, I only purchased Grado.. they were that good. For headphones, I have owned three pairs. I felt guilty watching this video as I moved to a Focal Clear for my audiophile 'phone... maybe I should have given them another chance....

Anywho... check out the video... a nice company that makes honest product.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2886663
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I grew up a couple of streets from Grado, in Brooklyn NY...

Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2886671
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Unbelievable! So small factory do so great stuff. I love their sound.
This week I exchanged my SR80 for newer SR80i. I hope to test SR325i in the nearest future.
I wait for 2nd part of this video on Sunday from listening room.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2886700
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I have a pair of RS1s that need to be fixed. There's a service centre in the UK, so hopefully I can send them off and get them back before Brexit.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890068
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Part two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mqqfPl_1TY
Great story of Grado Labs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWeiFLZ-Bo
Short opinion, why you should to try Grado:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NJLY7RXb9I
P.S. I've already purchased second hand SR225i.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890123
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Grado headphones have only one problem that I'm aware of: You can't find them in any store.
I'd really like to try them, but they're nowhere to be found.

Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: MacMacMac] #2890124
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Grado headphones have only one problem that I'm aware of: You can't find them in any store.
I'd really like to try them, but they're nowhere to be found.


Despite their commendable performance, they also do have a lesser-known reputation for being pretty uncomfortable, especially for longer stretches.

Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: mcontraveos] #2890149
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Grado headphones have only one problem that I'm aware of: You can't find them in any store.
I'd really like to try them, but they're nowhere to be found.

All my (4 pairs) Grado I bought on ebay wink
£51 for SR80i, £62 for SR225i - it's a joke.
I prefer older versions of SR series (SR, SRi). New series (SRe) have more V shape of frequency line.
Originally Posted by mcontraveos

Despite their commendable performance, they also do have a lesser-known reputation for being pretty uncomfortable, especially for longer stretches.

Of course, they are not comfortable like overear headphones but isn't bad how I expected. I am using them all the time now.
For me the most important is their musicality sound, really nice and rich.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890155
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I very like this brand, a conscientious HP manufacturer.


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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890411
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Thanks for the video, Bruce in Philly. Is his factory where all grado headphones and cartridges are made? Less like a factory than a labrinth of untidy offices and workshops. Enchanting, and very interesting.


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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890558
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What surprised me in the 2nd video, was he noted he does not make measurements! My goodness. All by ear.

Most makers of audiophile products measure as they design, and then "voice" or accept/reject design changes with listening. Grado does not measure at all!

I am not sure what to make of this, but I always liked their product.

Regarding comfort... yes, they are not the most comfortable but they are not uncomfortable.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890560
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Originally Posted by Bruce In Philly
Regarding comfort... yes, they are not the most comfortable but they are not uncomfortable.

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I find them excruciating after 20 or 30 minutes. I like them (although I think they are a bit bright sounding) but could never own them (I did but had to return them due to the pain).


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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890561
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Overrated and awfully uncomfortable. But I give them credit for being able to still make and sell them despite being so lagging behind many other manufacturers’ entry level offerings. It’s especially commendable that they even manufacture them in the US.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890566
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Overrated: yea, maybe. In my view, I see them as "rated", or worthy of further examination... then I go and listen. Grado is not the only rated phone company. But as Mr Mac noted, you really should listen to them and determine if they are uncomfortable on your 'noggin. The loss of brick and mortar is really a serious disappointment.

In my experience, the shape of your head, shape of your ears, and more importantly, the source electronics have a profound impact on how headphones sound. It is very personal.

I have seen their 'phones in retail stores... check here: https://gradolabs.com/company/where-to-buy

Full disclosure: Because of the loss of brick and mortar, I purchased my Focal Clear via the mail. I contacted Upscale Audio and received an assurance that I could return them if I didn't like them for full refund. I chose Focal because I own their speakers and they are an old and very respected audiophile company. I loved them but I am not completely happy... was there another phone out there I would like more for the price? I will never know.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890567
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Originally Posted by Bruce In Philly
The loss of brick and mortar is really a serious disappointment.

For most things, the loss of brick and mortar is not something that anyone need mourn just as the robotisation of our factories. From the Human Resources perspective, we really need to figure out how to retrain people for other jobs and to open other businesses better in alignment with the 21st century.

From the perspective of shopping, there aren't that many things that require personal testing, although headphones and pianos are among those. But other goods? Not so much. I will be buying a new oven, refrigerator, and 4K TV in the coming weeks for my interior redesign project and I'm sure these will be bought online, like all other major appliances.


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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890575
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My best man is an avid audiophile and lended me some of their middle ground headphones, can’t remember the name, maybe RS1E or something like that. They look fabulous with that wooden enclosures and vintage design. And all ends there. They caused me such a pain to my entire head and ears I had to take them in about 30 minutes. And the sound was... meh. Especially compared to my HD650s. I imagine their signature working well for rock or some jazz though.

As a matter of fact I think the cheapest SR60i that I owned (and returned) sounded the same or even better to my ears for much less. But they were still uncomfortable and not my type of sound. There are now much better headphones from Sennheiser, AKG, Beyerdynamic or even Superlux. And much more comfortable.

All that being said, I understand the appeal of their vintage look that has been unchanged for decades and the brand appeal to people. There are people who love vintage cars. Each to their own.

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Re: Grado Headphones - Factory Tour [Re: Bruce In Philly] #2890581
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I think my old Grados are in a different league to my HD 650s. I haven't tried any of the current offerings, so I don't know what they sound like, but I love my Grados. 3hearts

I have old SR80s and I haven't used them in years. I didn't like them at all.

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John, maybe it’s about model or even pair. With all that ear-tuned thing who knows what your luck is. If it’s the same guy who made yours and the current offerings, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gradually lost his hearing due to aging. And how about not being in mood, etc wink Or having a hangover... I believe you love yours though. But I couldn’t find ones to love frown But I love my Irish made HD650s! smile


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I have a pair of the SR60s which I use with my travel classical guitar, the Soloette. I like the headphones because they fold flat, which most headphones don’t do, so they fit in the travel bag. They were cheap so I don’t expect amazing performance from them.

I’m never that happy about wearing headphones and would never give up my speakers. Now that I have an acoustic piano, I have even less reason to wear headphones, and I’m happy about that. That’s just me.


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
John, maybe it’s about model or even pair. With all that ear-tuned thing who knows what your luck is. If it’s the same guy who made yours and the current offerings, I wouldn’t be surprised if he gradually lost his hearing due to aging. And how about not being in mood, etc wink Or having a hangover... I believe you love yours though. But I couldn’t find ones to love frown But I love my Irish made HD650s! smile


Quite possibly. On top of all that, they've been redesigned since I bought mine. I think the newer ones are supposed to be brighter -and Grado were always known for being bright. eek

The old RS1s were quite popular for monitoring classical location recording, along with Quad Electrostatic speakers. I didn't have the space or money for the Quads... grin

I had no idea the HD650s were made here! I need new drivers for mine... Maybe I can go begging at the factory. grin

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