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Used Digital piano - quick advice between 3 models #2889467
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Hello all !

i'm looking at a couple of used Digital pianos in my area, at the moment i need to stay on the "cheap" in your opinion which would be a great tool here, ?

i have these available in my area for a price that i can afford :

yamaha cp33 - p85 - p35 - p45 - p115 - p120

Roland fp1 - fp10

casio cdp100 - cdps100

prices are more or less in line with the used market, some come with accessories, purpose, mainly DAW, but also standalone playing ( spekaers not a problem eventually ),

i try to test a few, to see how i feel them. i don't have the money right now for my dream kawai mp11se frown

What's your take ?

thank you very much !!



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Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889473
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Yamaha CP-33 if you need pitch bend and mod wheels.

Roland FP-10 if you want a modern digital piano.

I guess...

Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889474
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Check out the CP33 and the P120. If the CP33 is in good shape, I'd probably go for this one among those you listed.


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Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889479
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If you need the digital piano to be as close to a piano (vs. keyboard/synth) as possible, FP10 will have the most realistic keyboard action of those you listed.


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Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889488
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On the Yamahas:

CP33 and P120 are really old, but have Yamaha's quite-decent GH action. It comes down to price, and how comfortable you are fixing/maintaining old, possibly worn down actions. Note the CP33 doesn't have speakers whereas the P-120 does.

The rest of the Yamahas have their inferior, low-end "GHS" actions. Forget the P85, it's too old. The P115 and P45 are in the "prime" range of used gear (recent release dates, high inventory in the used market). A lot comes down to price. The P35 is just an older P45.

The Roland FP10 is the most recent of the bunch, and I think it may be the best combination of modern sound engine and good action. It doesn't have much in the way of features though (not a lot of sounds, no usb memory port, single output jack). It does have BT though. Really barebones piano but probably the best of the bunch for just piano.


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Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889489
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You only mentioned two models still in production. I'd go for one of those, particularly if you're hoping to pick up a used one.


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Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2889524
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Wow Guys !! thank you a lot !! smile

I forgot to mention i don't need much sounds, piano, electric piano would be the most used ones, i have a daw and hooking it up would give me endless sounds, aim is to produce music mainly but also to study music theory and "really learn piano " which i never did :P i mostly listen and play blues/jazz/rnb/soul stuff so i don't really think i'll be needing a "sinth" per say.

the cp33 is around 350 bucks and is in town, i have an fp10 for 270 with a bag, plus shipping would be 300 or so, new it's 399 in town

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If you need the digital piano to be as close to a piano (vs. keyboard/synth) as possible, FP10 will have the most realistic keyboard action of those you listed.
yes that's what i'm considering very very important, i made a post about getting a digital piano some time ago, i was pointing at new, what i managed to understand is that the kaway mp11se would be my perfect fit, but budget is sadly not available so i have to wait some time for that, your reply got me really looking deeper at the fp10 wink Thanks !

i'm looking at some reviews, and videos to understand pros and cons of the items i listed, but i realized tough that maybe getting recent ones would be best for my case. i like the piano apps from roland than can give you some tweaks,

Thanks to all again for the responses !! smile

Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889556
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Do try out the instruments you want to buy in person!

It can be debated whether the Yamaha GH action (CP33/P120) or that in the FP10 is closer to a real piano. Find out for yourself!


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Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889568
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Hey Maurus smile yup i plan to,

i'll be going around shops in the weekend, and hopefully make my mind up, the only thing is that I'm really looking forward to a mp11se as said .. so i'm not sure i dropping 25 % of the cost now would makes sense, on the other hand i'm not a pianist .. so probably all will do just fine in my case. or should i hold on ?

Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889727
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If you’re still longing for an MP11se, have you considered the VPC1? From what you’ve written about what you’re looking for, a pure controller that costs half as much as the MP but is regarded by many as a superior piano action could be a more attainable moonshot for you.


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Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: brogh] #2889759
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Perhaps you could buy something like the Roland FP10 for now, with a view to buying the MP11SE later.

Re: Used Digital piano - quick advice ebteween 3 models [Re: johnstaf] #2890006
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Originally Posted by Syd B
If you’re still longing for an MP11se, have you considered the VPC1? From what you’ve written about what you’re looking for, a pure controller that costs half as much as the MP but is regarded by many as a superior piano action could be a more attainable moonshot for you.


Hi, yes i did, i pondered for some time the VPC1 vs the MP11se, I like to have a "turn on and play" thing, altough you need to hook a pair of speakers to the MP, it would get me out of the fire up the daw, load vst etc etc. i was considering the es8 also for some time which has speakers, i really fell in love with the MP, i managed to have a quick try in a shop here it was just "wow" smile

Originally Posted by johnstaf
Perhaps you could buy something like the Roland FP10 for now, with a view to buying the MP11SE later.


Hi smile yup i was thinking about that, thing is that there's only one used around( at 270 with bag ) it's 200 miles away, and not in a major city, so getting there is kinda a trip... new it's 399, not sure if i want to spend 400 bucks now .. it's 1/5th of the mp .. it's quite some dough imho in that perspective.

i'm going to a shop tomorrow who has the whole kawai fleet also has roland and yamaha, but i 'll be focusing on the kawai, sucks that they don't have the es8 in stock, 'd like to give that one a try too...

Thanks for the help ! i'll sleep on it and get back to you after i come back form the shop.

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well what a day smile

i had the shop almost all for me today (lucky duck i know ) i tried out, mp11, mp11se, es8, vpc1, rd2000, cp88, and the fp10, i'm really looking forward to the mp11se as it's the one that i've liked the most in all departments, all were absolutely superb pianos both in sound and playability, ( obviously the fp10 was reall really great, but not up to the others, i know i discovered hot water smile ), but what really has the wow effect was the mp11se.
What sold it to me was the feel of the keys, as said i'm not a pro pianist, but this one was just the one where i felt more at ease and at "home" despite all the others were really not that far imho.

Looking forward to get one, i usually invest a bit more and keep instruments a long long time, so i think here it might be worth the wait a bit.

Thanks to all for the feedback and suggestions.

Cheers !


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