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Re: Rocketman
johnstaf #2888684 09/09/19 07:14 PM
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Bayer pharmaceuticals directly benefitted from the Shoah and the slave labour extracted by it. Monsanto chemical, never bashful about promoting carcinogens like 'round up' , found a very compatible buy out.

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Originally Posted by Retsacnal
Originally Posted by Lady Bird
I know Yamaha produces many pianos ,but I dislike the continuous comments of dislike of these pianos.

I hope no one interpreted my post as anti-Yamaha. Mainly I posted for fun. It's a musical movie with a strong piano connection.

I certainly did not mean you !
I was just talking generally and from my own experience.Comments about the bright tone,Yamaha mass producing pianos, a motor cycles etc
The brighter tone of Yamaha pianos,one person once said they destroyed the tone of their pianos.That is what I meant.
It good to suggest a movie involving Yamaha pianos.

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I know Yamaha produces many pianos ,but I dislike the continuous comments of dislike of these pianos.

I hope no one interpreted my post as anti-Yamaha. Mainly I posted for fun. It's a musical movie with a strong piano connection.

I certainly did not mean you !
I was just talking generally and from my own experience.Comments about the bright tone,Yamaha mass producing pianos, a motor cycles etc
The brighter tone of Yamaha pianos,one person once said they destroyed the tone of their pianos.That is what I meant.
It good to suggest a movie involving Yamaha pianos.

Yamaha make fine pianos and tone is the pianists choice ,nothing to do with quality.
During 1930 Germany was making 20,000 pianos a year .This was a sharp decrease from 1910 when that country made 120,000 pianos per annum.
By 1935(Hitler came to power in 1933 )Germany was only making only 4,000 a year.Clearly thier energies were elsewhere employed.This would not suggest slave labour !
During the war the Bechstein factory and other piano factories were involved in making ammunition.

In Britain 55,000 pianos were being made in 1935 (50,000 pianos in 1930)In the USA 61,000 were made in 1935.(120,000 were made in 1930)

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The above information come from The Piano (The New Grove Musical Instruments Series )Edited by Stanley Sadie 1988.They are estimates of piano production from 1870 ---1980
The Bechstein piano was even before WW2 one of the great piano brands closely tied to the creation of classical music as most of us know.(so was Germany)

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After that I should watch Rocketman ! No I have to practice .I think my Sauter is sounding brighter
these days,but for the BETTER ! Who wants a piano as mellow as a harp ?

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
After that I should watch Rocketman ! No I have to practice .I think my Sauter is sounding brighter
these days,but for the BETTER ! Who wants a piano as mellow as a harp ?


Hi LadyBird,

You got me to thinking. What if someone made a harp (gorgeous instrument) with a keyboard. With a keyboard we could all play the harp.


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Originally Posted by j&j[...
got me to thinking. What if someone made a harp (gorgeous instrument) with a keyboard. With a keyboard we could all play the harp.


I can wait. My time for harp playing will come soon enough, unless I'm somewhere else shoveling coal!

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I know! It could be called a harpsichord! wink

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Hi

As a big Elton John I had to see the movie, and loved it. I haven't seen Bohemian Rhapsody yet but as I see it there are 2 major differences between the 2 films.
1. All the singing in Rocketman was done by the leading actor Taron Egerton, where as in BH the leading actor mimed to Freddie Mercury's original vocals.
2. Rocketman is much closer to a musical in style. And there was no attempt to only use songs from the right period for particular scenes. So early on a song from 2001 is featured when Elton is a boy.

Somebody mentioned Elton John doing masterclasses in an earlier post. No such thing has ever happened I'm afraid. However almost 20 years ago a website was created which is the next best thing. It analyses his playing and compositions and as far as I know is the only place where this sort of thing was ever done. It was unavailable for a few years but is again now. Well worth checking out (as I've mentioned on the non-classical forum many times).

There are some very accurate transcriptions of his playing on there.

https://eltonscafe.net/

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I know! It could be called a harpsichord! wink

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Originally Posted by j&j
Originally Posted by Lady Bird
After that I should watch Rocketman ! No I have to practice .I think my Sauter is sounding brighter
these days,but for the BETTER ! Who wants a piano as mellow as a harp ?


Hi LadyBird,

You got me to thinking. What if someone made a harp (gorgeous instrument) with a keyboard. With a keyboard we could all play the harp.

I once played a digital piano (Roland LX7)in a music store and it was obviously adjusted to 'MELLOW PIANO' . It was so mellow that I could hardly hear the tone.Far too mellow and sounded
like small Celtics Harp ?
I like a "singing tone" and to ME that means a piano that is not ultra mellow but has a balance of mellow and bright.

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I’ve always been an Elton John fan and even bigger Queen fan. I just don’t think there’s too many actors out there that could do justice to Freddy Mercury’s voice while trying to sing Bohemian Rhapsody.


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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by j&j[...
got me to thinking. What if someone made a harp (gorgeous instrument) with a keyboard. With a keyboard we could all play the harp.


I can wait. My time for harp playing will come soon enough, unless I'm somewhere else shoveling coal!

Cheers!

Perhaps that is why we all play the piano ,we do not want to prepair for harp playing too early !
Yet one day I hope to play one in that space .The alternative is too scary !
In the meantime enjoy your piano Bruce !

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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by j&j[...
got me to thinking. What if someone made a harp (gorgeous instrument) with a keyboard. With a keyboard we could all play the harp.


I can wait. My time for harp playing will come soon enough, unless I'm somewhere else shoveling coal!

Cheers!


Now, stop talking about me, lol.



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Originally Posted by j&j
I’ve always been an Elton John fan and even bigger Queen fan. I just don’t think there’s too many actors out there that could do justice to Freddy Mercury’s voice while trying to sing Bohemian Rhapsody.

Elton would no doubt be insisting on playing Yamaha harp !
I remember his songs especially from the 80's and 90's.He is somehow entangled in
the life and tragedy of Princess Diana in my memory.(and the naughty Fergie who now
sounds like a saint ,with some of the stories we hear)

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When is Rocketwoman coming out ?

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When is Rocketwoman coming out ?


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It's funny the way people call European pianos bell-like, as I think of NY Steinways as harp-like in the treble.

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These guys are lip syncing too (mostly).




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Originally Posted by Simon_b
1. All the singing in Rocketman was done by the leading actor Taron Egerton, where as in BH the leading actor mimed to Freddie Mercury's original vocals.
2. Rocketman is much closer to a musical in style. And there was no attempt to only use songs from the right period for particular scenes. So early on a song from 2001 is featured when Elton is a boy.

Yes, Bohemian Rhapsody is basically a story told in chronological order, while Rocketman is told more through introspection and flashbacks. It works.

One of the best and most poignant scenes, IMO, is when older Elton hugs younger Elton, seemingly indicating that he's come to terms with himself.



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