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Casio Privia PX-160 or Yamaha P71? Best piano for a beginner
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I see these are considered the very lowest decent options. And internet always endorses them as the best budget options. So which one should I get? Any other options will also be appreciated.

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At the $400 USD price point in the US, these two seem to be the best options for digital pianos (vs. keyboards/synths). They are pretty comparable. I alternate between liking one more than the other. If you can go slight north of that by about $100 USD, there is the Roland FP10 which has a slightly better keyboard action and an escapement "simulation." If you can go up by still another $100 USD, there is the Casio PX-S1000, which seems better in all respects than the PX-160, although perhaps not necessarily better than the FP10.


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So based on your words, it looks like you prefer Roland FP-10?

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So based on your words, it looks like you prefer Roland FP-10?

Yes. Personally, I think it is better enough as to be worth the $100 USD difference in price, but YMMV.


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Re: Casio Privia PX-160 or Yamaha P71? Best piano for a beginner
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Originally Posted by Adi0202
I see these are considered the very lowest decent options. And internet always endorses them as the best budget options. So which one should I get? Any other options will also be appreciated.

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Take Yamaha. It will be easy to resell and has slightly better sound engine imo than Casio. If you can, you can look for used Kawa ES100 or Yamaha P1xx series

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P71 is also available as P45. I'd say the Yamaha sounds better than the Casio, but the Casio feels better than the Yamaha. I'd check out the newer Casio in the same price range, the CDP-S100.

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Take Yamaha. It will be easy to resell and has slightly better sound engine imo than Casio. If you can, you can look for used Kawa ES100 or Yamaha P1xx series


Respectfully disagree. I think the action of the keys of the Yamaha is complete garbage, with no attempt whatsoever besides weight to make it feel like a piano. Casio and Roland, meanwhile, have much more realistic actions.

Agree with Tyrone on the Roland FP-10. My aunt just purchased one after we extensively auditioned the exact same keyboards you did... our rankings were as follows:

3 - Yamaha P71: it's a Yamaha, but that's it. Tinny sound, mushy keybed that doesn't feel realistic at all.
2 - Casio PX-160: great keybed and good value for money. But piano sound is tinny and decays too quickly. Keys also have a noisy wobbly plastic sound when playing hard and fast... not very confidence-inspiring for long-term durability. But many folks are happy with it.
1 - Roland FP-10: most expensive of the lineup but worth it. Best feeling keybed with escapement simulation. Also has a Roland Piano Partner 2 app which works rather well. Speakers are slightly weak, however, and there's no audio out jack (have to use headphone jack, which isn't ideal)...


Hope that helps! In the end your opinion is the one that matters most, so play these pianos for yourself and decide. Feel free to PM me if you need any other details. In the end, if $400 is your absolute limit, I'd recommend the Casio PX-160 over the Yamaha. You definitely get more for your money than a name.

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(Just hastening to add, I love Yamahas... I've owned their PSR arranger keyboards, MOX8, the AvantGrand N3X, and bought my father a CSP-150... so it makes me sad to rip on the P71... FWIW!) wink


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Take Yamaha. It will be easy to resell and has slightly better sound engine imo than Casio. If you can, you can look for used Kawa ES100 or Yamaha P1xx series


Respectfully disagree. I think the action of the keys of the Yamaha is complete garbage, with no attempt whatsoever besides weight to make it feel like a piano. Casio and Roland, meanwhile, have much more realistic actions.

Agree with Tyrone on the Roland FP-10. My aunt just purchased one after we extensively auditioned the exact same keyboards you did... our rankings were as follows:

3 - Yamaha P71: it's a Yamaha, but that's it. Tinny sound, mushy keybed that doesn't feel realistic at all.
2 - Casio PX-160: great keybed and good value for money. But piano sound is tinny and decays too quickly. Keys also have a noisy wobbly plastic sound when playing hard and fast... not very confidence-inspiring for long-term durability. But many folks are happy with it.
1 - Roland FP-10: most expensive of the lineup but worth it. Best feeling keybed with escapement simulation. Also has a Roland Piano Partner 2 app which works rather well. Speakers are slightly weak, however, and there's no audio out jack (have to use headphone jack, which isn't ideal)...


Hope that helps! In the end your opinion is the one that matters most, so play these pianos for yourself and decide. Feel free to PM me if you need any other details. In the end, if $400 is your absolute limit, I'd recommend the Casio PX-160 over the Yamaha. You definitely get more for your money than a name.


Thank you for your comment. I sent you a PM with a few follow up questions.

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How much you practice, is much more important than which piano you buy.

They're all OK.

And they're each cheap enough so that, if you want to upgrade, you can sell them at a small loss.

Think "tool for learning", not "lifetime purchase".


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I'm quite happy with my PX-160, but having said that, I might try out the FP-10 (or even the FP-30) the next time around.


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