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Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: PhilipInChina] #2886569 09/03/19 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
Agree with you dogperson:
1. Do you like it?
2. Can you afford it?
3. Will it fit?

If those are all yes, get it and play it.


👏🏻 That’s all it is ( and that’s enough to worry about!)


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Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: PhilipInChina] #2886579 09/03/19 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
Agree with you dogperson:
1. Do you like it?
2. Can you afford it?
3. Will it fit?

If those are all yes, get it and play it.

I agree totally! just get out the champagne,congratulate ,all at once ,another idea may break
the "gushy moment"

Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Lady Bird] #2886600 09/03/19 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Originally Posted by PhilipInChina
Agree with you dogperson:
1. Do you like it?
2. Can you afford it?
3. Will it fit?

If those are all yes, get it and play it.

I agree totally! just get out the champagne,congratulate ,all at once ,another idea may break
the "gushy moment"



+4 Go for it!



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Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2886620 09/03/19 03:53 PM
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My two cents.

I bought my grand piano 7 years ago. A Yamaha C2 with Silent System.
Initially I had planned to buy a smaller grand; but after trying a few out and not liking many of them, I decided to go for 170 cm.
But this shouldn't be a criterium for you. I play lots of classical; so I was looking for a piano with silent system which sounds good when I play classical.

However, size isn't everything. My second choice on my shortlist would have been the Kawai GE-30, which is shorter than the RX-2; but I liked the sound better. However, I didn't like the feeling of the NEOTEX keytops.

As for Steinberg: I tried a few Chinese pianos and didn't like most of them. Many had a spongy action and an undefined sound. A positive exception was indeed the Steinberg P series. Among Chinese pianos, the Steinberg P ranks high with me.

So if you like it (sound, action, feel, look, smell), go for it. smile


My grand piano is a Yamaha C2 SG.
My other Yamaha is an XMAX 300.
Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2886645 09/03/19 05:31 PM
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This Wilth Steinberg is not just furniture but sounds like a lovely
instrument.We no doubt all want the best instrument for you !
I am sure you survived any suggestions about other instruments.

Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2886651 09/03/19 05:49 PM
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I don't know about these small grands..

How about this?


I'd say it's this or a marimba, the rest is too much of a compromise.

Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2886716 09/03/19 11:41 PM
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Yes but the music is wild and free ! It seems to say "it's my dance and I shall dance as I wish"
Go Get Your Piano !

Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2886726 09/04/19 12:55 AM
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Also if it is such a lovely little unit, you might go back and find it has been sold.


Currently working towards "Twinkle twinkle little star"
Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2886818 09/04/19 08:13 AM
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I said this 4 pages ago but if you need one more person telling you to go get it - here it is! Go buy your piano. And please post tons of pictures before during and after delivery.


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Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2886847 09/04/19 09:10 AM
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Yes. It sounds great. As long as you're happy that's what matters. It sounds perfect!

Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2886865 09/04/19 09:44 AM
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Any updates for us? 😊


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Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2887265 09/05/19 12:20 PM
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I found, ultimately, that buying a piano is a learning experience. The more most questions you ask, the more pianos you try, the more you iterate over that cycle, and the more you read then the more you’ll learn. So it’s true that a 5’ piano will not give you a 9’ experience. But that’s not the point.

Keith Jarrett made his Cologne Concert solo piano recording on a dog of an instrument (a small baby grand as I understand it) and it’s considered a classic recording.

It always comes down to the individual and the piano. Except part of that is the individual who buys the piano now may not have the same level of pianism a year after the purchase. So it’s worth considering that a piano is something we grow into (or, rather, a acquiring a piano that a year later or more still accommodate our skills, assuming they’re growing) is worthwhile.

In the end, if you take an extra month or two or three or four so that you know you’ve got the piano you want then there’s nothing wrong with that. Again, buying a piano is a learning experience. And it’s not unusual at all to play a piano once, feel that it’s a dog, and then play it again and say, “wow, what was I thinking?” ... Just the nature of the beast ... smile

Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: dogperson] #2887273 09/05/19 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dogperson

The OP has already recognized that there are some design limitations with s smaller grand but he is pleased with this particular piano...., and this is the room he has. He did not ask for recommendations of uprights. He did not say ‘gosh. There are limitations due to size. think I’ll look keep my digital’. He understands, has thought about it and reached the decision to buy as this piano has the tone he likes. The bass does not concern him, for Pete’s sake!

At what point can we just say ‘enjoy’ ? .... and maybe discuss humidity control and tuning?

In a real sense we are not just answering the OP. This thread will end up indexed on google et. al., and for years to come people will be reading this thread for advice. Perhaps one or two will resurrect the thread, but probably not.

I don't think there is a balance that would satisfy everyone. We don't want OP to have second thoughts or feel judged, on the other hand the advice to bring someone very skilled with you, or to test a few tall uprights is very sound advice.


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Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2887290 09/05/19 01:48 PM
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I agree Roger that there is sound advice in this thread but at the point where any poster says ‘I’ve made my decision and I’m really happy about it’ seems to be a good time for alternative purchasing advice to stop. That could be the ‘balancing point’

In this case the OP was ready to buy and now he has seemed to have disappeared. I hope he will return


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Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2887293 09/05/19 02:09 PM
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I've always held that a grand is preferable. Generally speaking, grands use a gravity-action and uprights use a weighted-action. Go for it and show us pics!

Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: Terrytini] #2887927 09/07/19 03:22 PM
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It's as much a truism with audio electronics as it is with pianos:

Bass is cool.

120 cm is the minimum speaking length for the low A for good bass.

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Originally Posted by swampwiz
120 cm is the minimum speaking length for the low A for good bass.
Everyone's definition of "good" bass is not the same. Are you really saying that 119cm is unacceptable? I think specific cut off points for a good bass (or a good piano) are not reasonable since it's more like a continuum.

Re: Is 5ft really just furniture ? [Re: dogperson] #2888092 09/08/19 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dogperson
I agree Roger that there is sound advice in this thread but at the point where any poster says ‘I’ve made my decision and I’m really happy about it’ seems to be a good time for alternative purchasing advice to stop. That could be the ‘balancing point’

In this case the OP was ready to buy and now he has seemed to have disappeared. I hope he will return


Hello !

Apologies to those wondering whether things had worked out ! Unfortunately some other “ stuff’ interrupted my fun, but I’m able to get on with my purchase now.

I’d like to say again how great it’s been to get the advice and genuinely interested thoughts from people on here.

I have taken everything on board and looked at the alternatives suggested.

Best of all I’ve been completely reassured that I won’t be going far wrong to get the one I like, so will be completing the purchase in the next day or so.

Since people have expressed an interest I will post updates....and come back for all the tuning, humidity, and playing, debates !

Thanks again 👍

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Good decision - looking forward to hearing from you when it arrives !

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Originally Posted by Morten Olsson
Good decision - looking forward to hearing from you when it arrives !


Same here-along with pictures please.



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