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Re: I wish I could play...
iLogic #2886475 09/03/19 05:37 AM
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There's the whole hurdle of learning the notes, playing as a performance and not making mistakes whilst you play which I find the hardest part of all.

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I remember one of the latest concerts of Evgeni Bozhanov. For encore he played an unknown piece, very quiet, very lyrical. The entire hall was like enchanted, you could feel magic happening in his playing with every single note singing.

I thought it was a pianistic piece which is relatively difficult, at least that’s how it sounded to me. I had to research a lot to discover that the piece is actually a song for voice and piano called Morgen, by Richard Strauss, transcribed for solo piano by Max Reger. I found it on IMSLP and to my amazement it turned out to be so simple I could sight read it from start to end with no mistakes. But I can’t make it sing at all frown

Evgeni Bozhanov has included it as a title piece on his album Morgen to be released this month and the entire piece is available as a preview on Apple Music:
Evgeni Bozhanov - Morgen


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So many other pieces to choose from but everyone wants to play those ones, beethoven wrote over 30 piano sonatas, liszt wrote more paganini etudes and rhapsodies, all very great pieces.


Well yes, of course. I’ve learnt a lot of my favorite pieces already, and I’m on track on brushing up on a few I’ve started to forget, and I’m learning some new ones. All technically easier than these 3 (Moonlight Sonata 1st movement is one of my favorites for example, as well as Clair de Lune and I’m currently learning Chopin’s Nocturne in C-sharp minor).

These 3 are just some of the biggest challenges to master, if you are able to play these, you should pretty much be able to master all (or at least almost all) of the rest.


Not true. They are all relatively easy advanced pieces of music, moonlight sonata.. Try Hammerklavier, la campanella... Try mazzeppa, feux follets or his beethoven symphony transcriptions or gallop A minor amongst loads of others... Hungarian rhapsody 2 is another standard advanced piece, some of the others are much harder like no.11 and no. 14, he did write 19 of them.

People tend to play these popular classical pieces purely to look good to non pianists as show off pieces.


I think you might have misunderstood me. The one's I listed here are easier. Sonata 3rd Mvt, La Campanella and HR no.2 were the ones I meant was the hardest pieces. Sure the Sonata isn't on par with Liszt's in terms of difficulty, but it's still difficult.

Of course there are others as well. La Contrabandista for example...

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I'm kinda obsessed with Chopin at the moment. When I've mastered Nocturne in C-sharp Minor I will give Nocturne no.13 in C minor OP 48 no.1 a go.

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I heard Jessie Norman sing this years ago and she was magical. I would suggest listening to The Four Last Songs also by Strauss.

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I remember one of the latest concerts of Evgeni Bozhanov. For encore he played an unknown piece, very quiet, very lyrical. The entire hall was like enchanted, you could feel magic happening in his playing with every single note singing.

I thought it was a pianistic piece which is relatively difficult, at least that’s how it sounded to me. I had to research a lot to discover that the piece is actually a song for voice and piano called Morgen, by Richard Strauss, transcribed for solo piano by Max Reger. I found it on IMSLP and to my amazement it turned out to be so simple I could sight read it from start to end with no mistakes. But I can’t make it sing at all frown

Evgeni Bozhanov has included it as a title piece on his album Morgen to be released this month and the entire piece is available as a preview on Apple Music:
Evgeni Bozhanov - Morgen



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Originally Posted by CyberGene
I remember one of the latest concerts of Evgeni Bozhanov. For encore he played an unknown piece, very quiet, very lyrical. The entire hall was like enchanted, you could feel magic happening in his playing with every single note singing.

I thought it was a pianistic piece which is relatively difficult, at least that’s how it sounded to me. I had to research a lot to discover that the piece is actually a song for voice and piano called Morgen, by Richard Strauss, transcribed for solo piano by Max Reger. I found it on IMSLP and to my amazement it turned out to be so simple I could sight read it from start to end with no mistakes. But I can’t make it sing at all frown

Evgeni Bozhanov has included it as a title piece on his album Morgen to be released this month and the entire piece is available as a preview on Apple Music:
Evgeni Bozhanov - Morgen

Thanks for that heads-up for that lovely song transcription, which is just about the only slow dreamy piece I currently play. smirk

Though I play it slightly faster - sustaining a long melody entirely on the piano (especially with notes above and below it and a different counter-melody in the accompaniment) doesn't work so well when played too slowly, even on my magnificent digital with its long sustain. wink

I got his CD of 'Evgeni Bozhanov live in Warsaw' a few years ago (after the Chopin Competition 2010) and was pretty impressed.

This is one of the best versions of the original song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQvWBvyrMfU

Though in many ways, the orchestral version works better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qURtlClAkGU (I play it at this speed)


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My current 'I wish I could play'. . . .


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I think she is from another planet smile

Is this the UFO convention?


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Originally Posted by iLogic
I'm kinda obsessed with Chopin at the moment. When I've mastered Nocturne in C-sharp Minor I will give Nocturne no.13 in C minor OP 48 no.1 a go.

As some Chopin pieces, the first half is calm and not so demanding, but at half way poing.... I quit it until i can do better, but im hopping to finish it at some point.


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I agree 100%. Playing 'correct' notes is just the first step. I hear so many piano performances of technically demanding pieces on YouTube, which leave me cold. Maybe I'm jealous, because my technique is lacking wink But I have much more pleasure in listening to even simple pieces played with emotions which is translated by rich articulation.


I agree with this 100%. I found I like playing slower pieces and trying to bring out more emotions.
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Tyrone Slothrop #2886745 09/04/19 02:53 AM
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I doubt these pieces super technical are feasible for me.
What I'd like to be able to play:





What I am currently "working" on (never mind the ridiculous speed on this one, obviously I "play" it at a snails pace.... an asthmatic snail with a walker that is. laugh )
My teacher still thinks it's cool but my assessment is that the piece is too far "out there" atm. laugh


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Very nice the piece in the last video above. I played many japanese RPG. They are full of evocative piano pieces. Sometimes the music is what make me want to play a game more than the game itself.

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I've never played Final Fantasy video game, but I've heard piece called 'Yuna's Ballad' in some VST comparision. Really easy to play but fun sounding at the same time. My poor attempt:


Btw, can someone help me identify THIS piece? I've heard it somewhere and only remember this phrase. It sounds 'japanese', so I went through hundreds of Final Fantasy soundtrack songs, Yiruma's albums, but so far no success frown


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I wonder how many people love to play the music from a game or anime film/show, but actually dislike the game/film/show itself? Or are liking one and the other inextricably tied?


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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I wonder how many people love to play the music from a game or anime film/show, but actually dislike the game/film/show itself? Or are liking one and the other inextricably tied?

When I watch a movie or a series together with my husband, and I am a bit bored I secretly close my eyes and start listening to the music instead. And almost invariably find the music more interesting. smile


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Originally Posted by AlphaBravoCharlie

Btw, can someone help me identify THIS piece? I've heard it somewhere and only remember this phrase. It sounds 'japanese', so I went through hundreds of Final Fantasy soundtrack songs, Yiruma's albums, but so far no success frown
This is some variant of "Believe Me" from the anime Steins;Gate. I do not recall the exact name of this particular track.

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Btw, can someone help me identify THIS piece? I've heard it somewhere and only remember this phrase. It sounds 'japanese', so I went through hundreds of Final Fantasy soundtrack songs, Yiruma's albums, but so far no success frown
This is some variant of "Believe Me" from the anime Steins;Gate. I do not recall the exact name of this particular track.


OMG, so much thank you, rach3master! I've been searching this for so long.


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Originally Posted by AlphaBravoCharlie
I've never played Final Fantasy video game, but I've heard piece called 'Yuna's Ballad' in some VST comparision. Really easy to play but fun sounding at the same time. My poor attempt:

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I remember that piece, it's very nice.
Is that a Korg Grandpiano88 ? From what I can see from your playing I feel you use a very hard velocity curve, right? I notice you bang much harder with the right hand to make the main melody line come out.

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