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I wish I could play...
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La Campanella and Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2. That would be so awesome. Oh and why not Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement as well.

Anyone played any of these? I’m guessing the Liszt ones are incredibly hard, almost impossible on my NU1X, given the upright action. Beethoven is hard as well of course, but it seems more manageable. Also, my hands aren’t oversized, that’s a minus as well.

I’m watching these pros on YouTube and it makes me want to play these pieces so so much. But one can at least dream right?

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La Campanella and Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2. That would be so awesome. Oh and why not Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement as well.

Anyone played any of these? I’m guessing the Liszt ones are incredibly hard, almost impossible on my NU1X, given the upright action. Beethoven is hard as well of course, but it seems more manageable. Also, my hands aren’t oversized, that’s a minus as well.

I’m watching these pros on YouTube and it makes me want to play these pieces so so much. But one can at least dream right?


You can.

Let that "dream" inspire you and serve as daily incentive to get to work at making the dream come true.

It can happen you know.

You just have to make up your mind you are going to do your part.

Good Luck


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So many other pieces to choose from but everyone wants to play those ones, beethoven wrote over 30 piano sonatas, liszt wrote more paganini etudes and rhapsodies, all very great pieces.

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So many other pieces to choose from but everyone wants to play those ones, beethoven wrote over 30 piano sonatas, liszt wrote more paganini etudes and rhapsodies, all very great pieces.


Well yes, of course. I’ve learnt a lot of my favorite pieces already, and I’m on track on brushing up on a few I’ve started to forget, and I’m learning some new ones. All technically easier than these 3 (Moonlight Sonata 1st movement is one of my favorites for example, as well as Clair de Lune and I’m currently learning Chopin’s Nocturne in C-sharp minor).

These 3 are just some of the biggest challenges to master, if you are able to play these, you should pretty much be able to master all (or at least almost all) of the rest.

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I think there are many other great artists apart the usual mentioned.
I'm just starting on my DP with classical music. I learned Fur Elise, now I'm trying to learn Gurlitt Op.107 n.1, 4, 6, 7, 8. They are very nice and fun and in some of them I hear a little of Beethoven and Chopin, but with less dramatic emphasis. I'm searching for little but very expressive pieces like these.

From Chopin I wish I could play Fantasie Impromptu and Étude no.12 op.10, but for now they are too advanced for me (and maybe they always will be). I have my fingers a little sore just for playing many many times Fur Elise trying to reach a satisfactory result (and I'm not yet satisfied). So, I guess for now I'll learn some Gurlitt works. laugh

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I have played the 3rd movement of moonlight and I wouldn't even know where to start with either of the liszt pieces! I think they are still a big step up from that. I also have pretty small hands there's only a few bits of moonlight sonata that it's a problem and you just get by that with a quick ripple!

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La Campanella

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and Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2.

RCM level 11

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Oh and why not Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement as well.

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It has to be so easy, if even little children can play it:

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Try to go to 5:44 of this:


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I got most of the third movement of Moonlight when I was 16ish. I never was able to master it though. Same thing with Hungarian Rhapsody I probably had 90% of it down and never could get the rest. This was at around age 19 or so in age.

I have no desire to go back and try them now in my mid 50's. I'm enjoying playing more from lead sheets these days. I'm glad I took lesson when I was a kid smile

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All these years playing and I still consider myself a novice.
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I got most of the third movement of Moonlight when I was 16ish. I never was able to master it though. Same thing with Hungarian Rhapsody I probably had 90% of it down and never could get the rest. This was at around age 19 or so in age.

I have no desire to go back and try them now in my mid 50's. I'm enjoying playing more from lead sheets these days. I'm glad I took lesson when I was a kid smile

How many years of lessons did you have as a kid? And did you pause your piano playing any between then and now? Or have you pretty much played continuously since you started?


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My Aunt taught me beginner stuff when I was 5 and then I took lessons from age 8-21. But I had other things going on so I was an average student. Plus I was one of those that didn't like classical music at the time.
I see now how it helped me but I fought until I was maybe 14 years old. I never could do the Aural training to this day because of hearing issues, so I knew I wasn't going to pursue it as a major in college. Wish I would of got a minor in music though.

Long story short I gave up piano for a good 10 years after my brother attempted suicide when I was just short of age 21. I went in a downward spiral myself where I didn't touch the piano at all. I ended up getting a digital piano so I could play at nighttime 25 years ago and have been playing for relaxation and enjoyment every since. I remember for the first two years after I brought the piano, I would practice from 10pm to midnight almost every day. I then joined some church groups playing keys for contemporary worship. I'm glad I got back to playing as that is how I met my now wife. I was playing for one of the church groups and she joined the group.

I guess I can say that music does heal the soul.

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All these years playing and I still consider myself a novice.
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People usually get into piano from hearing the most popular pieces. For me, i learned as a kid on my school the "chorus" of some popular pieces like for elise, some mozart ones, but just playing on a small keyboard with the right hand. So after about 20 years, when i started learning proper piano(proper as in a real like piano, a digital one, not that im taking classes or anything), i really didnt want to play what everyone knows and play, its like playing "por una cabeza" on violin(i learned violine for about 2-3 years), it gets tiresome to hear the same pieces from everyone (including street players).

But well, i still play some very comon pieces, but i just happen to like them, mostly Chopin, from a pianist called Tziv Erez i started to follow a couple years before getting into piano finally, so i had an idea of what pieces i wanted to play.

Moonlight Sonata mov 3 is also on that list, aswell as Fantasi Impromptu, Ballade no1, Appasionata mov 3, etc.


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So many other pieces to choose from but everyone wants to play those ones, beethoven wrote over 30 piano sonatas, liszt wrote more paganini etudes and rhapsodies, all very great pieces.


Well yes, of course. I’ve learnt a lot of my favorite pieces already, and I’m on track on brushing up on a few I’ve started to forget, and I’m learning some new ones. All technically easier than these 3 (Moonlight Sonata 1st movement is one of my favorites for example, as well as Clair de Lune and I’m currently learning Chopin’s Nocturne in C-sharp minor).

These 3 are just some of the biggest challenges to master, if you are able to play these, you should pretty much be able to master all (or at least almost all) of the rest.


Not true. They are all relatively easy advanced pieces of music, moonlight sonata.. Try Hammerklavier, la campanella... Try mazzeppa, feux follets or his beethoven symphony transcriptions or gallop A minor amongst loads of others... Hungarian rhapsody 2 is another standard advanced piece, some of the others are much harder like no.11 and no. 14, he did write 19 of them.

People tend to play these popular classical pieces purely to look good to non pianists as show off pieces.

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Originally Posted by mwf

People tend to play these popular classical pieces purely to look good to non pianists as show off pieces.


Non-pianists will often be impressed with the scale of C Major if it is played well.

You might even be asked, "How do you remember all that?"

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I’ve been recently obsessed with not so flashy pieces. I prefer lyrical romantic repertoire that is often not (very) technically demanding but I’ve come to realize it requires a lot of dedication to make it sing and flow, almost like a song. I’m more concerned about that exquisite feel and lyricism than purely technical skills. Maybe it’s some compensatory complex I have developed due to lacking very good technique which is a result of being self taught for so many years and it’s probably too late now to repair that frown And so I concentrate more to interpretation, feel, rubato, fine pedaling, etc. IMO it’s almost equally difficult to do well.


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Originally Posted by CyberGene
I’ve been recently obsessed with not so flashy pieces. I prefer lyrical romantic repertoire that is often not (very) technically demanding but I’ve come to realize it requires a lot of dedication to make it sing and flow, almost like a song. I’m more concerned about that exquisite feel and lyricism than purely technical skills. Maybe it’s some compensatory complex I have developed due to lacking very good technique which is a result of being self taught for so many years and it’s probably too late now to repair that frown And so I concentrate more to interpretation, feel, rubato, fine pedaling, etc. IMO it’s almost equally difficult to do well.


So true, and it can take an age to get a piece to sing like you want it to. For me getting it to sing how I want takes about 80% of the time.

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I’ve been recently obsessed with not so flashy pieces. I prefer lyrical romantic repertoire that is often not (very) technically demanding but I’ve come to realize it requires a lot of dedication to make it sing and flow, almost like a song. I’m more concerned about that exquisite feel and lyricism than purely technical skills. Maybe it’s some compensatory complex I have developed due to lacking very good technique which is a result of being self taught for so many years and it’s probably too late now to repair that frown And so I concentrate more to interpretation, feel, rubato, fine pedaling, etc. IMO it’s almost equally difficult to do well.


I agree 100%. Playing 'correct' notes is just the first step. I hear so many piano performances of technically demanding pieces on YouTube, which leave me cold. Maybe I'm jealous, because my technique is lacking wink But I have much more pleasure in listening to even simple pieces played with emotions which is translated by rich articulation.


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