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Beginner switching between instruments #2883257
08/25/19 10:21 AM
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Hi,

I started with a 61 key MIDI keyboard without any prior knowledge of theory, fingering etc. and upgraded to Roland FP-30 earlier this year. I believed that I wouldn't require a pitch bend/mod wheel as a beginner, but I started making rapid progress and now miss the option to manipulate sounds in real time.

People who faced similar dilemma were recommended to buy a cheap MIDI keyboard and use its pitch/mod wheel along side their DP-s. That sounds good, but why stop there? Having say a Korg Microkey 25 in front of me means easy access and more opportunity to jam out playing a "one-handed" synth lead. A small micro keyboard is accessible, cheap (no worry about abusing it!) while my DP is not as easily accessible, it's expensive, it's heavy and I treat it like my baby. Common sense is that the more you can practice the better, right?

However, my greatest fear is undoing everything I've learned (muscle memory-wise) if I start spending more time with a small controller with microkeys that require different hand and finger placement. For example: I went a month without playing my DP and then resumed playing, and although I had a slight moment of confusion compared to e.g. if I just played it a day prior, but things worked out fine. Now if I go a month without playing the DP, BUT spend each day playing on microkeys and possibly altering muscle memory......then what? Is my fear valid? Should I avoid playing smaller keys until I'm intermediate level?

It might sound like I'm trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, but I wouldn't risk losing the muscle memory that you work so hard for. smile

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Re: Beginner switching between instruments [Re: Steve-22] #2883310
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What kind of music do you want to learn and play ?

Classical, jazz, blues, pop, rock, metal, hip hop ? Or your own composition ?



"The piano keys are black and white but they sound like a million colors in your mind.”
– Maria Cristina

Re: Beginner switching between instruments [Re: Steve-22] #2883332
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Originally Posted by Steve-22
Hi,
. . .

However, my greatest fear is undoing everything I've learned (muscle memory-wise) if I start spending more time with a small controller with microkeys that require different hand and finger placement.. . .

It might sound like I'm trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, but I wouldn't risk losing the muscle memory that you work so hard for. smile


As someone who uses both a DP and a mini-key synth:

. . . It's a pain in the @$$ to switch between them.

Until you get good mastery of the touch of weighted keys, and their size, I would avoid crossing over onto a mini-key synth.

_After_ your fingers know how big an octave is, and how to handle dynamics with weighted keys, without thinking about it:

. . . If you want to occasionally play mini-keys, it won't hurt you.

(I don't teach, and this advice is worth what you paid for it.)


. Charles
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PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq / Lounge Lizard / Korg Wavedrum / EV ZXA1 speaker
Re: Beginner switching between instruments [Re: Steve-22] #2883379
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And something like a Kawai MP11 wouldn't work?

Last edited by Parcival; 08/25/19 04:26 PM.
Re: Beginner switching between instruments [Re: Parcival] #2883702
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Originally Posted by Serge88
What kind of music do you want to learn and play ?

Classical, jazz, blues, pop, rock, metal, hip hop ? Or your own composition ?



I want to learn and improvise effectively to make my own compositions. In other words, I'm learning to play the piano to sort of ditch the mouse inside the DAW.

Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
Originally Posted by Steve-22
Hi,
. . .

However, my greatest fear is undoing everything I've learned (muscle memory-wise) if I start spending more time with a small controller with microkeys that require different hand and finger placement.. . .

It might sound like I'm trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, but I wouldn't risk losing the muscle memory that you work so hard for. smile


As someone who uses both a DP and a mini-key synth:

. . . It's a pain in the @$$ to switch between them.

Until you get good mastery of the touch of weighted keys, and their size, I would avoid crossing over onto a mini-key synth.

_After_ your fingers know how big an octave is, and how to handle dynamics with weighted keys, without thinking about it:

. . . If you want to occasionally play mini-keys, it won't hurt you.

(I don't teach, and this advice is worth what you paid for it.)



Thank you for the input. I had a feeling it'd come to this. frown I might opt for a breath controller instead.

Originally Posted by Parcival
And something like a Kawai MP11 wouldn't work?


Way out of my budget and the Roland otherwise serves me well.


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