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Casio GP-300 or GP-400?
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Using the built-in speakers, how does the sound compare between the GP-300 and GP-400? The store does not carry the GP-400 and it is within the price point I am considering. I am only interested in the piano and not the other sounds that these instruments can produce. Does the GP-400 sound better than the GP-300 using their built-in speaker systems? Thanks



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Casio GP-300 or GP-400?

None of them, since GP-310 and 410 are coming.


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Have you tried other pianos from Yamaha, Roland, and Kawai?

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GP400 sounds better because it has better sound simulation, so it sounds better on both speakers and headphones. But if you can wait for GP410, surely it will be better.

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Looks like there will only be GP-310 and GP-510 to start with. Also from the specs and recordings online there doesn't seem to be much difference in the new models.

I'm actually in a similar position to you. I have just sold a grand piano i had for 10 years due to a house move, and the need for headphones. I've tried all the main brands and really like the Casio GP range. The 400 and 500 are identical except for the cabinet so if you have tried the 500 that should give you a good idea. I think they are worth the extra over the 300 even just for the "scene" function. It basically gives lots of presets and allows you to store your own. I thought the piano sounded quite sterile at first but really came alive when I tried some of the different scenes. I seem to remember "Debussy" was my favorite as it brought out more of the resonances. Try it next time you are at the store and see what you think.

Also with the new models coming out you might be able to negotiate a good deal of the GP-500.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Have you tried other pianos from Yamaha, Roland, and Kawai?


I have not tried any other brands. Piano shops are few and far between in the Los Angeles area. When I’ve called some they did not carry the models of the brands I want to try. I went to Living Pianos who only carry the Casio line and I liked them very much. I don’t even know if I want to take the hour drive to try them a second time. Our traffic is so horrible.

It’s the reason I joined this forum, to gather opinions. Boy-oh-Boy! There is no piano that people agree on liking. I haven’t looked in pianos stores in decades and still remember picking out my Sohmer. We went to two shops just across the street from each other. I played the Sohmer, liked it and it was delivered the next day. That was in September 1969, fifty years ago. I studied piano at USC then went off doing other types of music and spent less and less time on my old repertoire. I am also a violinist and play the recorders. Don’t laugh but my bow costs more than the GP-500. Now I’m retired and watching my pennies more, lol.



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Looks like there will only be GP-310 and GP-510 to start with. Also from the specs and recordings online there doesn't seem to be much difference in the new models.

I'm actually in a similar position to you. I have just sold a grand piano i had for 10 years due to a house move, and the need for headphones. I've tried all the main brands and really like the Casio GP range. The 400 and 500 are identical except for the cabinet so if you have tried the 500 that should give you a good idea. I think they are worth the extra over the 300 even just for the "scene" function. It basically gives lots of presets and allows you to store your own. I thought the piano sounded quite sterile at first but really came alive when I tried some of the different scenes. I seem to remember "Debussy" was my favorite as it brought out more of the resonances. Try it next time you are at the store and see what you think.

Also with the new models coming out you might be able to negotiate a good deal of the GP-500.


I’m going to try for a better deal on the GP-500 since I know there are new models on the horizon.



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If I were spending thousands on a piano I would not be deterred by the need for multiple trips for visit far-off piano stores.

All too often he who is in a hurry loses.

Anyway ... have you looked at Sam Ash? They now carry high-end pianos. My local has a wide range of Kawai and Yamaha.
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Originally Posted by Tenor1
Don’t laugh but my bow costs more than the GP-500.


I had no idea.

Anyway I love my GP-400. I tried all the brands and I liked the Casio by far the best.


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Yeah I would strongly advice to try as many pianos as you can BUT that said I think Casios GP 4xx or 5xx will be pretty good choice.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
If I were spending thousands on a piano I would not be deterred by the need for multiple trips for visit far-off piano stores.

All too often he who is in a hurry loses.

Anyway ... have you looked at Sam Ash? They now carry high-end pianos. My local has a wide range of Kawai and Yamaha.
SA has eight locations in Southern California:
20934 Roscoe Blvd. . . . . Canoga Park
18031 Gale Ave . . . . . . City Of Industry
7401 West Sunset Blvd. . . Los Angeles
7360 Sunset Blvd . . . . . Los Angeles
4449 Mills Cir . . . . . . Ontario
3418 College Ave . . . . . San Diego
18831 Hawthorne Blvd . . . Torrance
14200 Beach Blvd . . . . . Westminster



Thank you SO MUCH! Many of those on the list are out of business.



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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
If I were spending thousands on a piano I would not be deterred by the need for multiple trips for visit far-off piano stores.

All too often he who is in a hurry loses.

Anyway ... have you looked at Sam Ash? They now carry high-end pianos. My local has a wide range of Kawai and Yamaha.
SA has eight locations in Southern California:
20934 Roscoe Blvd. . . . . Canoga Park
18031 Gale Ave . . . . . . City Of Industry
7401 West Sunset Blvd. . . Los Angeles
7360 Sunset Blvd . . . . . Los Angeles
4449 Mills Cir . . . . . . Ontario
3418 College Ave . . . . . San Diego
18831 Hawthorne Blvd . . . Torrance
14200 Beach Blvd . . . . . Westminster



Unfortunately, Sam Ash does not carry the GP line at all. The sale price at Living Pianos is $5,999 and they came down to $5,700 for the GP-500. I think that’s a good price.



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Originally Posted by Nordomus
Yeah I would strongly advice to try as many pianos as you can BUT that said I think Casios GP 4xx or 5xx will be pretty good choice.


I wish there is a store that carries all the brands to try, but I can’t find one within a reasonable distance. My church just got a new top of the line Clavinova, shaped like a little grand piano. I don’t like the piano sound on it and it cost over $20,000. It’s not the Avantgrand model.



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I wouldn't insist on the Casio GP line. I tried one at a piano store here in Raleigh and I was unimpressed.
All the more so because I tried the piano next to it, a Novus. The latter sounded better, but more importantly the action blew me away. The Casio was meh.

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I wouldn't insist on the Casio GP line. I tried one at a piano store here in Raleigh and I was unimpressed.
All the more so because I tried the piano next to it, a Novus. The latter sounded better, but more importantly the action blew me away. The Casio was meh.

Ok cool but you are talking about a piano that is almost 3 times the price of GP so it's a different league.

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This is an LA-based Kawai dealer who, in the past, has been willing to sell at a deep discount (for example, search the prices paid thread for "Pierre").


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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
This is an LA-based Kawai dealer who, in the past, has been willing to sell at a deep discount (for example, search the prices paid thread for "Pierre").


I just called them and only got an answering machine. Their website doesn’t even list store hours. I left my info and will wait to hear from them. I don’t like not having their hours posted and nobody picking up phone calls.



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This is an LA-based Kawai dealer who, in the past, has been willing to sell at a deep discount (for example, search the prices paid thread for "Pierre").


I just called them and only got an answering machine. Their website doesn’t even list store hours. I left my info and will wait to hear from them. I don’t like not having their hours posted and nobody picking up phone calls.

I don't think you have to worry about Pierre's being a scam. They are an official dealer (check the Kawai website, for example) and Pierre has sold to a few people on PW.

On the other hand, he might be something like an "exclusive boutique" type operation. That might explain the low profile w/ regard to telephone and website.


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If I remember correctly he is closed on Sundays. Go give him a visit. I enjoyed going to his store very much,


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The GP-400 does sound much better through headphones and with speakers than the GP-300; in particular, the resonance of various parts of the piano sound is missing with the GP-300 while it is not the case with the piano sound of the GP-400 that has the resonance of all the parts of the piano, and this area only makes a big difference on the quality of the sound you hear in the GP-400 and not in the GP-300. Just read the specs of both and you will easily have the reasons stated in the specs.

Do not bother waiting for the upgrades, as they are 99.9% identical than the previous versions with very increased prices. More, there is no upgrade for the GP-400, only the GP-510 and GP-310 upgrades.

Believe it or not, the GP-400 is even better than the GP-500, as it has the exact height of an acoustic grand piano and the only difference between the GP-400 and the GP-500 is the polished ebony on the GP-500.

You are way better off with a GP-400 than any other digital pianos such as the CLP Yamaha pianos or the CA Kawai pianos because the keyboard touch of the GP-400 is very similar to the one from an acoustic grand piano, hence the name hybrid grand piano; the CLP Yamaha pianos and the CA Kawai pianos, their keyboard touch does not come even close to rival the keyboard touch on the Casio GP-500, GP-400, and GP-300.

You cannot go wrong with the GP-400 but avoid the GP-300. Ask for a discount for the GP-400 due to the current upgrades with the GP-510 and GP-310.

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