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PT playback source #2882804
08/23/19 04:03 PM
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I was blown away by the first samples in Toddy's recordings. When I play with PT, it never sounds like that.

If I record something in PT and output it as a .wav file, then play it back on a high end PC, I should get a good sound that's not dependent on the sound card in my laptop where PT is installed right?

I currently listen to the output of my rather old laptop (Acer Aspire 5730) direct via a headphone socket, so I presume that way it's limited by the laptop's soundcard. I've read before that any degraded quality is not likely to be due to the midi to USB lead.

All I want is to get the same quality of sound as shown in Toddy's sample, and indeed in the PT demos on the website for the classical pieces using Steinway D Classical Recording AB/BA.

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Re: PT playback source [Re: Chris Warren] #2882836
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How much mastering/post-processing was done for the demos?


Login name is a tribute to Jan Pieterszoon Sweelinck, arguably the historically first great keyboard virtuoso.
Re: PT playback source [Re: Chris Warren] #2882920
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Originally Posted by Chris Warren
I was blown away by the first samples in Toddy's recordings. When I play with PT, it never sounds like that.

(1) If I record something in PT and output it as a .wav file, then play it back on a high end PC, I should get a good sound that's not dependent on the sound card in my laptop where PT is installed right?

(2) I currently listen to the output of my rather old laptop (Acer Aspire 5730) direct via a headphone socket, so I presume that way it's limited by the laptop's soundcard. I've read before that any degraded quality is not likely to be due to the midi to USB lead.

All I want is to get the same quality of sound as shown in Toddy's sample, and indeed in the PT demos on the website for the classical pieces using Steinway D Classical Recording AB/BA.


(1) That's correct. The Pianoteq "rendering" (taking MIDI data, and turning it into digitized audio in a WAV file) doesn't use the laptop's soundcard. The WAV file (or high-resolution MP3 file) doesn't change when it goes from one PC to another. So if it's played through a good (= linear) soundcard, it should sound fine.

(2) Also correct. The MIDI-to-USB lead carries _digital data_ -- not analog data. You may get "latency" (time delay), but it won't distort, or be noisy. If the laptop's soundcard is poor (I don't know how bad yours is), that _can_ distort the analog audio output, that feeds your headphones.

There are a plethora of adjustments and effects in Pianoteq. I don't know if Toddy gave his magic formula for them:

. . . but if you use the same settings as he did,
. . . . your virtual piano should sound the same as his virtual piano,
. . . . . if it's played through a high-quality soundcard.

That's the nice thing about software -- all copies are the same, and it doesn't know who's using it.


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PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq / Lounge Lizard / Korg Wavedrum / EV ZXA1 speaker
Re: PT playback source [Re: Chris Warren] #2883174
08/25/19 03:34 AM
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Toddy explained how he processed for recording (see full post):

Originally Posted by toddy


In reply to TheodorN

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Which raises another question. Did you use the stock preset, unchanged, for Pianoteq Steinway D, or did you fiddle with the condition slider? The condition slider does bring some realness to Pianoteq, I'm sure peterws will agree with me on that.

This was the default setting of Pianoteq – with slightly raised reveqrberation to put roughly the same ambience as Garritan CFX samples as available in CFX lite.






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