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Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2882571
08/22/19 10:31 PM
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"Open box" is synonymous with "floor model". It's hard to sell a piano unless you have something to show, so they do.

The dealer needs no excuse to lower his price. But buyers are wary of floor stock ... so the price expectation is lower.

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Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2882585
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$13k new delivered, no taxes, with warranty on N3x is a great deal in my book. For the past few years, I have informally tracked the AvantGrand used market.

A used N3 without warranty is significantly cheaper; but if you are going to use headphones, the binaural option on the N3x offers a lot of value IMO.
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BTW, there is a used N3 on PianoBuyer in NJ for $8,500 ask (original owner purchased in 2015); haggle down a bit and that is also a good deal.

The deluge of used AvantGrands in the NorthEast tapered off and just a few have been on the market the past few weeks. That is likely partially a function of summer holidays and cheap hybrids that got scooped up.

Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2882586
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The system of no-tax for item bought in a different state to the one you live in is pretty appalling though. It means there is a huge disconnect between the retailers in a given state and their own constituents. You can't give your own people the best deal. That's an absurdity that really should be changed. Why should your local salesperson be able to give somebody down the road across an arbitrary border a better deal than he can give you? Ridiculous! Everybody knows that the transport industry has been screwed to the wall. It's just not a level playing field. That, and people actually don't seem to think dealers have the right to make more than 10c on a deal - at least on a deal involving them.

Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2882799
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Fantastic price... you just beat mine by a grand! It's a fantastic instrument. Now enjoy it and let us know what you think!!!


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Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2882835
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Brilliant deal! Good for you!

Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2882838
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Just out of curiosity: does N3X and all the AvantGrand family include different acoustic piano samples than let's say P515 or CP88?


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Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2882853
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Ando,

It’s technically not correct, in terms of what is being advocated here. Anything not taxed via sales tax is instead subject to “use tax” which is equal to the sales tax of one’s home state. Whenever I purchase a piano out of state, I pay the use tax because the pianos I own are legitimately claimed (and depreciated as) business property, and I want to make sure what I’m doing is “above board”.

It’s a matter of time until the reporting of big-ticket items gets to the point where folks will get in trouble for not paying the sales/use taxes. It’s probably already happening in selected areas and types of products.


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Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: ando] #2882854
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Originally Posted by ando
That, and people actually don't seem to think dealers have the right to make more than 10c on a deal - at least on a deal involving them.

How much dealers make is set by the free market - unless that is, one is in a command economy.


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Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: ando] #2882868
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Originally Posted by ando
The system of no-tax for item bought in a different state to the one you live in is pretty appalling though.
Any legitimate tax avoidance is a bonus, if you ask me. The money is much better off in my pocket than in the government's clutches.

Originally Posted by ando
It means there is a huge disconnect between the retailers in a given state and their own constituents. You can't give your own people the best deal.
I was not aware that people in my state were "my own people" any more than people in another state.

Originally Posted by ando
... people actually don't seem to think dealers have the right to make more than 10c on a deal - at least on a deal involving them.
People can think what they want. Dealers can do what they want. A sale is made when both parties are in agreement on the terms.

Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: MacMacMac] #2882877
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Originally Posted by ando
It means there is a huge disconnect between the retailers in a given state and their own constituents. You can't give your own people the best deal.
I was not aware that people in my state were "my own people" any more than people in another state.

State's rights meant a lot more at one time than it does now. Still, California is a different place than Louisiana. smile


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"Success is 10% inspiration, and 90% perspiration." -by some other wise person
"Pianoteq manages to keep it all together yet simultaneously also go in all directions; like a quantum particle entangled with an unknown and spooky parallel universe simply waiting to be discovered." -by Pete14
Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2882878
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Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: Teeter] #2883185
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Teach him young. Teach him early. And he won't grow up chanting "WE WANT FREE STUFF".

Re: How to get best deal on Yamaha N3X? [Re: MacMacMac] #2883635
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Teach him young. Teach him early. And he won't grow up chanting "WE WANT FREE STUFF".


^^^ This!


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