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Dumb rookie question: How do I get my paper sheet music into forScore? I scan it and save as a pdf, then email it to myself and open the attachment with forscore. But there are other ways - I haven't had much success with using the ipad camera. Sam I was having trouble with using the iPad camera too. The iPad would cast a shadow on the score...and if I tried to get around that by angling the lamp from the side, the light is no longer uniform on the page. Then I discovered that I could place the score on the floor in the natural light of a (preferably south-facing) window. That gives it a uniform light which is not affected by holding the iPad over it. I use digital/forScore only for pieces of over four pages, because of being able to do my own page-turning with the AirTurn foot pedal in a recital. With scores of four pages or less, I can just spread out all the hardcopy pages on the music stand, so I use hardcopy.
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9190, is "Telegram" the same as "Telegram Messenger" -- which is what shows up in my AppStore search?
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ClsscLib, yes, correct. The link. Client for PC/Mac/Linux can be found here.
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I'd like to see an app that imported scores in a format like MusicXML, or Finale/Sibelius/Dorico scores. I often find that Henle scores have way too little music per page, and it would be nice to change the layout. Maybe it's the same with all publishers, but I seem to notice this more with Henle more than Peters, for example. Here's a typical example:
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PS, in the above score, the printed pages are very large.
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I'd like to see an app that imported scores in a format like MusicXML Below I will give a quote from the article, the link to which I gave just a few posts above. Perhaps the biggest differentiator between Newzik and forScore is the ability to read MusicXML files in addition to PDFs. There are some fantastic things that are possible with MusicXML that are not with PDF. For example, the metronome can follow a score with meter and tempo changes. The music can be resized and reflowed in an instant, which is implemented very cleverly in Newzik. You can pinch-zoom the screen to set the staff size, and then a split-second later, everything reflows so that no matter how big or small you make things, the system is always the full width of the screen, which is particularly nice if you are using Newzik on a smaller screen, or if you prefer to use your iPad in landscape orientation, rather than the portrait orientation used by most scores.
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Thanks 9190! That looks interesting.
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Dumb rookie question: How do I get my paper sheet music into forScore? I use Genius Scan. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thegrizzlylabs.geniusscan.free&hl=en_USI got the 12 inch Ipad Pro and pencil for digital reading. It changed my life. I use ForScore with it. At first it took me a while to get over the learning curve as I import pdf books of music beside individual pieces. You can index the books which is more involved. I use the bookmarks a lot to create setlists. The auto cropping is really nice. I use the bluetooth Pedpro for page turns. Now I can carry less books to a gig. Beautiful technology. Don't need all the features of Ipad pro but seemed to be the best screen size for me. Very clear. Even with using the blue light adjustment. One thing I'm interested in doing is using an app that rearranges the music. I can't remember the name, but seen a Youtube of someone using it to edit pdfs. That'll be next.
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I forgot to mention a GREAT app called Scanner Pro for iPhone/iPad that makes quick work of putting scores into pdf format. It can autosave to your cloud drive (icloud/dropbox/onedrive etc) and then pulled into ForScore in a jiffy.
I also noticed the low resoution of the Henle pdf you can make from their digital scores.
My workaround is to have made Scanner Pro scans of my printed Henle books, and pull those into ForScore. Much better.
I have used Scanner Pro to digitize most of my printed library. I also used it to digitize some very old scores that were falling apart and needed to be put into storage and this way I have perfectly high resolution scans that I can print paper copies of, too.
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I have both forScore and the Henle app. I find forScore more agreeable to use. For me, the only plus point for Henle is the possibility of changing the layout: you can put more or less systems on a page and change the margins. Of course this only works with the scores in the special Henle format.
Since I prefer playing from forScore, I use the Henle app to create PDFs (first setting the layout as I wanted), and then imported the PDFs into forScore.
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I love Henle scores and use the app to purchase digital versions of them. Like others do, I then export the score as a PDF and open it in forScore.
The 12.9 inch iPad Pro is perfect for reading scores. It’s almost as if it were made for that purpose. Perfect size and I can play in low light and see the score with no difficulty. This combination has completely replaced paper scores for me.
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I'll add my voice to those partial to forScore. I use forScore on a 9" iPad pro, I also have a PageFlip Butterfly page turner and an Apple Pencil. I love forScore. I make "set lists" for different selections (in progress, repertoire, scales etc.) I use it to make bookmarks in larger works (like my scale book), I use the link function (is that what it's called? where you make a button to jump ahead) Anyway, I use that for repeats and codas etc... What else? Oh, when writing, you can zoom in, then start to write. That makes it easier to write more in a small space and when you zoom out, it looks great and is very easy to read.
I also like being able to save different versions (so I have different annotations)... I also use the colors sometimes to add mark-up in red or blue. I also like being able to write something in and then erase it later.
If I could afford it, I would upgrade to a larger iPad, but that's not in the cards right now because I just spent my savings on a new piano! But even with the
For making PDFs, I have used the scanners you can find in libraries, or the scan function on large copy machines where you can send the pdf to yourself as an email. I have on my iPhone Scanner Mini, which I think is made by the company that makes Scanner Pro? Anyway, this actually works really well and the finished product generally looks great.
I do sometimes use a paper score, esp for a more difficult piece in the early stages of learning it. but I tend to transition to forScore very quickly because of the ease of using the bluetooth foot pedal for page turns. I didn't know you could configure the pedal so that any pedal goes forward (thanks Sam!) I might try that.
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I configured my pedal so that it only goes forward, no matter which button I hit with my foot - that removed a lot of my anxiety about accidentally going back. If I want to go back I tap the screen. Of course, that has nothing to do with forscore, but the pedal control app.
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How did you do that? The mode settings table in the manual that came with mine doesn't list such a mode. Did you maybe use a Y-cable? Or just disconnect the left pedal (so that pressing it does nothing)?
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I have two pedals: AirTurn PEDpro and PageFlip Firefly. But only PEDpro I set so that both its pedals turn pages forward. Firefly pedal gives more confidence in this regard, so I left it as it is. PEDpro has own advantages: it supports direct Bluetooth connection to forScore, thus the system virtual keyboard is not blocked, as well as lower power consumption. And, of course, small size and weight.
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I configured my pedal so that it only goes forward, no matter which button I hit with my foot - that removed a lot of my anxiety about accidentally going back. If I want to go back I tap the screen. Of course, that has nothing to do with forscore, but the pedal control app.
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How did you do that? The mode settings table in the manual that came with mine doesn't list such a mode. Did you maybe use a Y-cable? Or just disconnect the left pedal (so that pressing it does nothing)? As they say, there's an app for that (do people still say that?). It's an Airturn BT-200 S-2, and there is an app from Airturn that can configure the pedal to do various things - I don't remember the actual steps, but it was pretty easy to figure out. Sam
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Oh I see...in the App Store "AirTurn Manager." Looks like my older BT-106 model isn't supported though.
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