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Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? #2881334
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For those of you who use tablet score readers -- and assuming that price were no object, do you prefer Henle or forScore? Or some other app?

I'm finally hoping to launch my tablet-reading career, but whether an app is user-friendly is really important to me.

I'm kind of a handless, old Luddite, to be perfectly honest.


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881348
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ForScore is the way to go if you want to read from scores that aren't Henle. As far as I know, Henle's app is only for music you've bought through Henle.

You can export pdfs of your Henle-purchased scores and import them into ForScore.

It's been a while since I've directly used the Henle app (I purchased a few things through them) but if I'm still correct about it, ForScore is more versatile insofar as it is set up to organize an entire music database of scores.

My main hurdle is switching over fully to ForScore. I get nervous for ballet accompaniment and use the printed score almost all of the time. The most common usage of my iPad professionally is when I use it to add a third page to a score that's in a book where I can only see two pages at a time.

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I just checked my Henle Library app and I do not see a way to organize scores that you didn't purchase through Henle. That makes it not really comparable to ForScore which isn't its own publisher and is set up to orgranize any score you might throw at it.

I love Henle scores, especially for particular composers, but it's only one small sliver of what's out there in the published world.

Is there a Henle score reading app that is not the Henle Library app I am thinking of?

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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881354
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To get Henle electronic scores for the app, I suppose one needs to explicitly buy electronic, not paper, version of their books?


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881365
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I believe that is the case. Too bad - it would be nice if you got the digital version free with a purchase of the print. I bought the digital for October, then bought the whole set of Seasons in print.

The good thing about the digital version, for 1 score, is that it is really inexpensive. The bad thing is that the score is oversized, so when I printed it on 8.5x11, it didn't really look right.


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881367
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I’d prefer to play from my Henle physical books and have a great sheet music collection rather than digital scores.


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: cmb13] #2881369
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Originally Posted by cmb13
The bad thing is that the score is oversized, so when I printed it on 8.5x11, it didn't really look right.


The optimal page size for piano music is 9 x 12, so letter-sized paper is always a squeeze. 😆

We pianist spend too long peering at the score and scribbling on it to learn it. It's much more pleasant when it's well printed. Everybody else seems to make do with stuff snapped upside-down, crooked, and backwards while transposing at sight (i.e. trumpet players). LOL


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881381
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I agree - I began to amass a collection of Henle’s and have about 10 books now. Love them. Greatly prefer over digital. And I’m a digital person otherwise - paperless otherwise, scan everything.

I’m a purist in some aspects. Still drive a stick.


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881384
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I use Document Viewer on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 with a 9.7" screen. The program is free and it works with any PDF file so you can buy or download or scan anything you want to use with it.

One great feature is automatic margin cropping. This will remove the white margin around the score and fill the screen with the actual printed part of the page. It will work with most of the bluetooth page tuner pedals (though I don't have one of those myself) and everything you use gets put onto a "bookshelf" so it's easy to find what you want.

If I was going to replace my tablet today I would get one of the new Samsung 10.5" screens, since bigger is of course better. But the one that I have is fine and not too small to use like anything much smaller would be.


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881399
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I appreciate that some people prefer paper to digital -- to date, I've been one of them!

But that's not the question I'm asking in this thread.

At the MIC's annual Summer Adult Piano Camp, I noticed that perhaps half of the students were using digital scores, and it was a revelation to me -- very few people use digital scores in my local piano community. I'm working on some long pieces now, for which not having to turn pages (with my hands) would be a real blessing.

So let me ask a more narrow question (or two):

I like to annotate my paper scores, writing in fingerings and phrasing marks, and sometimes making other notes.

For those who DO use digital scores, do you find that annotating your scores in that way is harder than with paper scores?

Is it easier to do so on some apps than others (Henle vs. forScore vs. others)?

Thanks for all answers to these questions!


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881414
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I have an Apple Pencil that does work well for annotating scores on an iPad with ForScore. The main problem is that the screen has no "tooth," and it's an awfully slick surface to control writing on. You can get screen overlays, which some artists use for finer control, but then screen brightness and resolution become issues.

The Henle app added new features to annotation since the first version, I believe. I just looked at them: they seem to be implemented well, I simply haven't purchased many scores with the app and have not been using it with the present repertoire that I'm playing. I still don't like Henle's spacing and re-spacing features for pages.

ForScore clearly outperformed all the other music-reading apps years ago, and it has become something of a standard, I believe. I'm most used to it.


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Re: Tablet Scores: Henle or forScore? [Re: ClsscLib] #2881417
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I have a tablet with a 10.5 screen. I use it occasionally to view scores that i do not have the intention to buy. Either just a score i need to read or that i want to sight read but not really to play. I have the ability to anotate but i find it much more cumbersome than on paper format. At least for 2 reasons. One is that it is really fast to write and erase on paper and second is that the paper version is also easier to flip through to see the whole structure with the annotations. Often times i write other information on a piece of paper in addition to the score. So for the most part i do not annotate the digital versions. Other people may have different experience and it also depends upon how you interact with the interface. Eventually the digital will be more powerful than paper. It is just a matter of time and there is no doubt that most scores will be digital in the future.

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I'll second the comments on the Apple Pencil - it works well with forscore and the ipad. Once I learned that you can rest your palm on the screen without making a mark it worked better and I was more accurate. There are built-in symbols for things like finger numbers and accidentals, so you select what you want and just drop it in place. Your finger numbers look like printed text. I also use the line to circle things and make marks.

I would never think of using color on a paper score, but I use red for fingering and blue for lines in forscore and it is very visible.

The bright screen really helps at my age.

Another interesting feature is the ability to have layers - so you can put finger numbers on one layer and analysis on a different layer and just show the layer that you want.

I configured my pedal so that it only goes forward, no matter which button I hit with my foot - that removed a lot of my anxiety about accidentally going back. If I want to go back I tap the screen. Of course, that has nothing to do with forscore, but the pedal control app.


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Originally Posted by cmb13
[...]I’m a purist in some aspects. Still drive a stick.


Not the broom variety, I hope! smile

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[...]I’m a purist in some aspects. Still drive a stick.


Not the broom variety, I hope! smile


Most people outside North America ride on broomsticks, er, I mean use sticks. (Those with them also use less petrol, er, I mean 'gas'. thumb).

I wouldn't know what to do without my stick.....


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Unfortunately I’m not a wizard. frown

But true - whenever I’m in the Old Country, I’m amazed that all the cars we see in the US are around in The UK but in sticks. VWs, Audi’s, BMWs, MBs, Honda’s, Fiats, Toyota’s.....so many are MT cars. Not just the sports cars, but the family sedans also. And way more wagons, way fewer SUVs.

Back to digital scores....

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Dumb rookie question: How do I get my paper sheet music into forScore?


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Originally Posted by ClsscLib
Dumb rookie question: How do I get my paper sheet music into forScore?


I scan it and save as a pdf, then email it to myself and open the attachment with forscore. But there are other ways - I haven't had much success with using the ipad camera.

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Dropbox has an excellent scan tool. Free.


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Few years since I left paper sheet music. And I'm happy I did. So happy with iPad Pro 12.9" (2nd gen), Apple Pencil, forScore and bluetooth pedal (I have both – AirTurn PEDpro and PageFlip Firefly. I like both. Both have their advantages). So many advantages and comfort in comparison with ancient paper sheets. Including no more annoying problem with constantly closing pages or turning pages with hands. No more paper mess. No more dependence on ambient light conditions (hi, Gvido!). And many more powerful and convenient things that gives forScore app and digital format in general.

Since I am very good at Sibelius notation software, most of my sheets I make myself instead of scanning. This provides at least two advantages: I can always easily edit anything in sheets (from fingering to own arrangements if it's not classical pieces). I can quickly make a separate version specifically for the iPad, thus most effectively utilizing the area and aspect ratio of the iPad's screen. And of course, all this in the best digital quality.

I use the best messenger – Telegram. Thanks to it I easily and quickly get my sheets from PC to iPad: in Telegram you can send any type of information, including any files, to yourself. And then on any other device, just get the sent file.

As of Henle – first time hear this word. The most popular sheet music readers for iPad were reviewed in this article:
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