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Rare condition makes music painful for pianist
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Sad she isn't a surgery candidate. frown Her quality of life is obviously very poor.


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Sad she isn't a surgery candidate. frown Her quality of life is obviously very poor.


That is a sad story, I hope further healing from the concussion helps ameliorate her hearing symptoms.

I had a scare a couple of weeks ago. I got an ear infection in my left ear and possibly a micro-perforation in the ear drum. There was bleeding and the whole ear canal was swollen, muffling my hearing in that ear. I went to an ear, nose, and throat specialist, twice. When he suctioned that ear, it was so excruciatingly painful that I almost screamed in pain.

They gave me two hearing tests and my hearing was actually fine, surprisingly. Luckily, with antibiotic ear drops, the infection cleared up in about a week. While listening to music or playing the piano didn’t make me vomit, it was no longer enjoyable. I was terrified that I was going to have permanent hearing loss and I was very depressed at the thought.

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Originally Posted by LarryK
I had a scare a couple of weeks ago. I got an ear infection in my left ear and possibly a micro-perforation in the ear drum. There was bleeding and the whole ear canal was swollen, muffling my hearing in that ear. I went to an ear, nose, and throat specialist, twice. When he suctioned that ear, it was so excruciatingly painful that I almost screamed in pain.

As a kid, I had a perforated ear drum having my ear boxed. This was back in the time when you could go to the paediatrician as a kid, have them discover a strange injury, and Child Protective Services wouldn't be called.

It was painful and unpleasant, but I never vomited because of the puncture.


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I had a scare a couple of weeks ago. I got an ear infection in my left ear and possibly a micro-perforation in the ear drum. There was bleeding and the whole ear canal was swollen, muffling my hearing in that ear. I went to an ear, nose, and throat specialist, twice. When he suctioned that ear, it was so excruciatingly painful that I almost screamed in pain.

As a kid, I had a perforated ear drum having my ear boxed. This was back in the time when you could go to the paediatrician as a kid, have them discover a strange injury, and Child Protective Services wouldn't be called.

It was painful and unpleasant, but I never vomited because of the puncture.


Yikes, people are mean. Luckily, ear drums heal! My primary care doctor told me that they can perform eardrum grafts but mine appears to have healed on its own.

There are all kinds of rare conditions related to hearing and balance. Some people get a type of vertigo from being on a boat that does not go away after returning to land. I don’t love boats enough to risk getting that condition.

I have friends who have tinnitus from exposure to loud music. Loud noises bother me so I have tended to avoid amplified concerts and I just couldn’t get excited about playing the electric guitar. Even a half watt practice amp was too loud for my apartment.

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By the way, my piano teacher told me that she had ruptured an eardrum on a plane flight, a long time ago, and had thrown some vodka down the chute. The doctor she eventually saw was not impressed by this course of treatment.

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There are all kinds of rare conditions related to hearing and balance. Some people get a type of vertigo from being on a boat that does not go away after returning to land. I don’t love boats enough to risk getting that condition.

And balance is not well understood. My pet peeve is that there are presently different theories about virtual reality sickness, yet we still don't definitively what causes it. What would allow a person like me to be mostly unaffected, yet cause my good friend to be a vomiting mess from using VR? After all, unlike motion sickness, there is no real, physical motion involved!

This also shows how people can let their own experiences influence their worldview. As I child, if we had VR back then, which we didn't, I'm sure I would have thought people were pulling the wool over my eyes if they told me they could get sick by looking at motion and not feeling it. I suspect a lot of people allow their own experiences to influence what they believe of the world and other people. "If it can't happen to me, then it must be a hoax when other people say it happens to them." Tying this back to sound, we had a case a number of months ago where a poster claimed that the Yanny/Laurel phenomena to be a hoax, presumably because they only heard one of the two possibilities and could not "imagine" anyone might legitimately hear the other.


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There are all kinds of rare conditions related to hearing and balance. Some people get a type of vertigo from being on a boat that does not go away after returning to land. I don’t love boats enough to risk getting that condition.

And balance is not well understood. My pet peeve is that there are presently different theories about virtual reality sickness, yet we still don't definitively what causes it. What would allow a person like me to be mostly unaffected, yet cause my good friend to be a vomiting mess from using VR? After all, unlike motion sickness, there is no real, physical motion involved!

This also shows how people can let their own experiences influence their worldview. As I child, if we had VR back then, which we didn't, I'm sure I would have thought people were pulling the wool over my eyes if they told me they could get sick by looking at motion and not feeling it. I suspect a lot of people allow their own experiences to influence what they believe of the world and other people. "If it can't happen to me, then it must be a hoax when other people say it happens to them." Tying this back to sound, we had a case a number of months ago where a poster claimed that the Yanny/Laurel phenomena to be a hoax, presumably because they only heard one of the two possibilities and could not "imagine" anyone might legitimately hear the other.


I avoid VR. I remember feeling unwell after playing a stock car racing game.

Here is an article on seasickness after the cruise:

https://traveltips.usatoday.com/sea-sickness-after-cruise-18661.html


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I had an eardrum rupture on a plane flight as well. It was actually a relief, it had been incredibly painful prior to rupture, though it was a bit gross and alarming to my seatmate. It took about 6 weeks, but it healed on its own, no vodka needed smile It was a little disturbing as I couldn't hear well while it healed and was nervous about it coming back to full use, but it did. For the week prior to the rupture, it was so swollen that when I played piano, the notes actually had a "pitch bend" as well as a horrible ringing sound, it made practice quite unpleasant.


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