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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2880589
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It's easy ... There's just not much innovation in this market. Very little. Least of all in the slow-selling CVP line.

The sun looked yellow yesterday. I have a feeling it will look yellow once again today. (Pianos aren't much different.)

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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2880605
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Yes it could be true (sun is always yellow), but it is true for all type of products, not just for pianos. It's all a big business. But sometimes we are happy to buy a new product because something new is developed in it. If not, why we buy a new piano? Why we buy a new car? Why we buy a new computer? Why we buy a new....... I do not agree with such approach, and no one can say for sure if a new product has some innovation or not without seeing and trying it. If not, all manufacturers could shut down their jobs! We do not hope so.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: Pianofortissimo] #2880623
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Originally Posted by Pianofortissimo
How can you say this? No one tried them yet. I believe it is not a good thing to speak badly of a new product when it is not there. Or, maybe, someone has the corresponding old product or must sell it, so he/she says that new one is not so good..... it would be not the first time unfortunately.


Read the specs...
And went to a demo...
Talked with Peter Baeertmans...

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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2880873
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Bachus, On the positive side, since you have had first hand experience by “going to the demo...and talking w/ P.B.”, can you share with the rest of us what are some of the new innovations specifically on the CVP 809 and CVP 809GP? How about the action?, New sounds and styles, etc? Thanks!

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2881179
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No one can say something without any real test. I don't believe that Peter Bartman is going against Yamaha saying this new piano is the same as old..... It sound very strange to me. So, we must wait.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: Pianofortissimo] #2881200
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How do you know that Peter Baertmans said any such thing?
Originally Posted by Pianofortissimo
I don't believe that Peter Bartman is going against Yamaha saying this new piano is the same as old.
I, too, doubt that he said such a thing. And no one claims he did.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: Bachus] #2881451
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Bachus seems ignore my questions. What positive comments did you get from your experiences?

I request an honest response to your statements:

‘“Read the specs...
And went to a demo...
Talked with Peter B.... “

Pianofortissimo you are on target !

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2881533
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Whilst I would be relieved if the CVP809 was not much of an advance on my CVP709, the Bachus post is I think deliberately vague. From his reply, all that can be deduced is that after talking with Peter B (no reference to what he actually said) after reading the specs and after listening to the demo, HE' Bachus' has concluded that the CVP809 is an evolutionary step only. I think we do have to wait and find out for ourselves.

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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2881579
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Totally agree with you PMH!

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: pmh] #2881582
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I think this is ALWAYS the case.
Originally Posted by pmh
I think we do have to wait and find out for ourselves.
Despite any rumors about an upcoming product ... despite the pre-launch build-up ... despite the glory-filled announcements ... despite the spec sheets that obfuscate more than they inform ... despite the long delay before the product shows up at a retailer ...

We can only wait for hands-on and ears-up. Anticipation is over-rated.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2882396
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New video on the cvp 805 with P. B.

https://youtu.be/WSzYmiT8sWk

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2882441
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Very nice! Unfortunately audio quality is not so high, but this demo is interesting! And Peter Baartman is a very good pianist.

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I found the sound quality to be acceptable considering that perhaps it was not a direct line connection ..... Video was taken from a poor angle. What I found most unusual was——- WHY would you bring someone into your country and have the artist play an a piano facing a WALL ???

P.B. did a wonderful job playing, as always.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2885586
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One more video, in french language:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHT5gtlM_iM
Well, not so interesting.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: MacMacMac] #2885590
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I think this is ALWAYS the case.
Originally Posted by pmh
I think we do have to wait and find out for ourselves.
despite the glory-filled announcements ... despite the spec sheets that obfuscate more than they inform ...




When I read all those fancy specs it always reminds me this scene from this great movie smile


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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2885666
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You made my day. smile

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