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Re: CVP-800 series thread
R111 #2880589 08/17/19 12:01 PM
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It's easy ... There's just not much innovation in this market. Very little. Least of all in the slow-selling CVP line.

The sun looked yellow yesterday. I have a feeling it will look yellow once again today. (Pianos aren't much different.)

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Yes it could be true (sun is always yellow), but it is true for all type of products, not just for pianos. It's all a big business. But sometimes we are happy to buy a new product because something new is developed in it. If not, why we buy a new piano? Why we buy a new car? Why we buy a new computer? Why we buy a new....... I do not agree with such approach, and no one can say for sure if a new product has some innovation or not without seeing and trying it. If not, all manufacturers could shut down their jobs! We do not hope so.

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Originally Posted by Pianofortissimo
How can you say this? No one tried them yet. I believe it is not a good thing to speak badly of a new product when it is not there. Or, maybe, someone has the corresponding old product or must sell it, so he/she says that new one is not so good..... it would be not the first time unfortunately.


Read the specs...
And went to a demo...
Talked with Peter Baeertmans...

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Bachus, On the positive side, since you have had first hand experience by “going to the demo...and talking w/ P.B.”, can you share with the rest of us what are some of the new innovations specifically on the CVP 809 and CVP 809GP? How about the action?, New sounds and styles, etc? Thanks!

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No one can say something without any real test. I don't believe that Peter Bartman is going against Yamaha saying this new piano is the same as old..... It sound very strange to me. So, we must wait.

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How do you know that Peter Baertmans said any such thing?
Originally Posted by Pianofortissimo
I don't believe that Peter Bartman is going against Yamaha saying this new piano is the same as old.
I, too, doubt that he said such a thing. And no one claims he did.

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Bachus seems ignore my questions. What positive comments did you get from your experiences?

I request an honest response to your statements:

‘“Read the specs...
And went to a demo...
Talked with Peter B.... “

Pianofortissimo you are on target !

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Whilst I would be relieved if the CVP809 was not much of an advance on my CVP709, the Bachus post is I think deliberately vague. From his reply, all that can be deduced is that after talking with Peter B (no reference to what he actually said) after reading the specs and after listening to the demo, HE' Bachus' has concluded that the CVP809 is an evolutionary step only. I think we do have to wait and find out for ourselves.

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Totally agree with you PMH!

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I think this is ALWAYS the case.
Originally Posted by pmh
I think we do have to wait and find out for ourselves.
Despite any rumors about an upcoming product ... despite the pre-launch build-up ... despite the glory-filled announcements ... despite the spec sheets that obfuscate more than they inform ... despite the long delay before the product shows up at a retailer ...

We can only wait for hands-on and ears-up. Anticipation is over-rated.

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New video on the cvp 805 with P. B.

https://youtu.be/WSzYmiT8sWk

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Very nice! Unfortunately audio quality is not so high, but this demo is interesting! And Peter Baartman is a very good pianist.

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I found the sound quality to be acceptable considering that perhaps it was not a direct line connection ..... Video was taken from a poor angle. What I found most unusual was——- WHY would you bring someone into your country and have the artist play an a piano facing a WALL ???

P.B. did a wonderful job playing, as always.

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One more video, in french language:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHT5gtlM_iM
Well, not so interesting.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I think this is ALWAYS the case.
Originally Posted by pmh
I think we do have to wait and find out for ourselves.
despite the glory-filled announcements ... despite the spec sheets that obfuscate more than they inform ...




When I read all those fancy specs it always reminds me this scene from this great movie smile


Ars non habet osorem nisi ignorantem
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Well, still waiting for this new 800 series. At least here in Italy. And we are in November now! It seems very strange. What about a possible Christmas campaign? Ehy Yamaha, where are you gone? I would like to know situation in other countries. Thanks.

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Pianofortissimo : The new CVP 800 series are S-L-O-W-L-Y making their way into the USA. I have seen 2 sites online stating “in stock”. Others claim: “ pre-order- coming soon”. I’m sure Yamaha will get their act together before the CHRISTMAS mailing rush.

In this country, they are selling for CHRISTMAS with specials NOW because they claim there are less days to shop this year compared to last year.

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Hoping it will be the same in Europe. It seems one of those pianos was seen in Yamaha booth at an event in Turin, Italy, last weekend. But I was not there, I heard this from a friend, so I don't know. And no one knows when 800 series will be available in the stores for a real test. We hope during Christmas days.

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By the way, when I mentioned CHRISTMAS specials, it was meant for other things, not the CVP 800 series specifically. Have you tried the CLP 695? Dimensions for the 809GP are very close, if not identical. They share the same action, except the CLP 695 obviously lacks the multiple sounds and styles. There is a difference with the WATTs also -- 300 vs 280 for the CVP 809. I like the action response and sound from the CLP 695, but ROLAND' S PHA-50 keyboard action and sound is hard to beat. I bought the HP605 just over a year ago and love it!! It includes a 10 Yr warranty. YAMAHA only has a 5 yr. Some folks claim it is a marketing/sales gimmick for the 10 years. I say 10 is BETTER than 5. Who knows ! !

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