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Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not #2880522
08/17/19 08:14 AM
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I think you will find this funny. I know I do...NOW.

I got up early as I always do to practice and I noticed that my C below middle C was causing a metallic buzzing. Oh no! I touched the fallboard, the music rack, and the top to see if it was them vibrating sympathetically. I opened up the top and looked inside to see if anything obvious was loose but no.
I remembered the advice here on PW so I took the lamp off of the top and the music books too and still it was there. I looked around the piano to see if anything was obvious but no...nothing.

I was bummed to know that I'd have to call someone to track down my new buzzing noise so I stopped playing for a while.

Well...I went into the kitchen to make myself some breakfast and when I looked down at the sink area I noticed that there were two metal bowls that my wife had washed and they were in the drying rack upright with their rims touching. I thought...no, it can't be...the kitchen is 20 feet away from the piano but I figured it was worth a try, this was the first time we'd used these two metal bowls since the piano was delivered.

I took them out of the sink and put them away and then sat down at the piano again...C! C! C!

No metallic buzz!

It was those two bowls in another room that were the culprits!

I'm so relieved. Now, on to more practicing.

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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880523
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Thank you for sharing this experience.

When there are buzzes that come up they can be difficult to track down. Sometimes a 1/4 turn of a tiny screw on the lid hinge is all that is needed. But sometimes it is not coming from the piano at all (as you now know). Many times it takes 2 people to find these kinds of buzzes. They can come from anywhere.

Congrats on doing it solo!


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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880524
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Glad you found your annoying buzz, Bob!

I've had a few myself, over the years (on my pianos:-). One turned out to the fallboard lock mechanism. I never used it, so stuffed some cotton in the key-hole, and Eurika! no more buzz!. smile

A slightly out-of-tune unison can also cause what sounds like a buzz. But, hey, you are learning about the pleasures and sadness of owning an acoustic piano by leaps and bounds! And, the pleasures far outweigh the sadness. smile

All the best!

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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880528
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Glad you found it. I bought a gorgeous brass piano lamp when I had my upright. I had to have it in one spot only or there was buzzing. With a grand that’s closed when I’m not practicing, there’s no place for the pretty lamp, but then there’s no mysterious buzzing.


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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880547
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Since my last tuning, my piano has a buzz sometimes when I play the Bb'. But not always, and sometimes, opening and closing the lid helps a bit, or touching the strings... But I still didn't find the source.

And it's only in acoustic mode. When I play the piano in silent mode there's no buzz.


My grand piano is a Yamaha C2 SG.
Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880571
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I had a very mysterious buzz some time ago. It turned out to be a corner of the metal logo on the cover of my Wittner metronome sitting on a bookshelf some distance from the piano.

I tried to glue down the offending corner that's not secured with a little nail. Nothing has worked, so it get's used for viola playing in another room. (I could toss the cover, but I don't want to do that--LOL). Certain piano notes still make it buzz if it's anywhere nearby.


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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880573
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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880579
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Hahaha thanks for the story. Funny and enlightening at the same time!

Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880633
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PianoWVbob,
Now you know the bowls size: a C cup!


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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880643
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During a cold patch last winter my piano developed an occasional soft buzz
on one note .I called the technician he did something to the section at the
end of the string where it was wound up.Winding the end of the string right
to the end of the wire.
He said he should replace the string.This winding up however worked and no
more buzz at all !
A few weeks later he brought round a new string which was sent from
Germany and he said I should contact him when I want him to replace
the string.There is no buzz ever so I do not think anything more needs
to be done !
He said I should keep the string.So the Sauter wrapped string is in a
piano stool next to the piano.Sometimes I get the feeling that the
technician thinks the buzz was just in my head and if I just keep the
string I will never hear the buzz again.
Whatever works ,but I do not think I need to risk having a string replaced
when I believe what he did by winding up the end of the string cured
the problem.
I am glad however he does not want that string back ?
No more buzz at all anymore !

Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2880658
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Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
I had a very mysterious buzz some time ago. It turned out to be a corner of the metal logo on the cover of my Wittner metronome sitting on a bookshelf some distance from the piano.

[...]


Now, there's something new; a metronome that "gets a buzz on"!

Cheers!


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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: BruceD] #2880731
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
I had a very mysterious buzz some time ago. It turned out to be a corner of the metal logo on the cover of my Wittner metronome sitting on a bookshelf some distance from the piano.

[...]


Now, there's something new; a metronome that "gets a buzz on"!

Cheers!


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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880769
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Originally Posted by PianoWVBob
..the kitchen is 20 feet away from the piano but I figured it was worth a try, this was the first time we'd used these two metal bowls since the piano was delivered.

I took them out of the sink and put them away and then sat down at the piano again...C! C! C!

No metallic buzz!

I'm glad for your right action.
good luck,

Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: BruceD] #2880789
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Originally Posted by WhoDwaldi
I had a very mysterious buzz some time ago. It turned out to be a corner of the metal logo on the cover of my Wittner metronome sitting on a bookshelf some distance from the piano.

[...]


Now, there's something new; a metronome that "gets a buzz on"!

Cheers!

I hear a buzz coming from Victoria BC especially on windy evenings Bruce .
Do you perhaps it is your Estonia ?
Now that should give you a buzz !

Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880812
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Actually I had a full area carpet placed in this room just after the technician " cured" the buzz
because the room was cold in winter .I often wonder if it was something on the bookshelf ,the
lamp or perhaps yes ---.-my "friend" the metronome ?

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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2880814
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I remember having an annoying buzz when I played F#. The culprit was an empty lighter fuel can.

Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2881193
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I had a kitchen cupboard door which resonated when I played my piano in the last house. It became a routine to walk to the kitchen, open the door and then to the piano. I'd tried a damper on the door, but nothing quite did the job as well as opening it.


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Re: Oh no. My new piano has developed a metallic buzz. :( Or not [Re: PianoWVBob] #2881351
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Bob,

What's particularly good about your experience is that if you had not tracked it down, it would have just disappeared at some point and the whole thing would have been a mystery. As it is, it proves that "there is ALWAYS a reason" and many of us likewise benefit from it. I too, would have said: "No way..." but yes!

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