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Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? #1614891
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I was first alerted in this forum a couple years ago that this was availalable and made the purchase & set it aside until just recently. I'm very happy with it and hope he publishes more transcriptions in the future, but dang it, there seem to be some errors on the 3rd page of "Thanksgiving". I've heard this solo often enough to be able to make the corrections myself using white-out & ink. It just seems to me to be such an obvious error that someone should have caught it. Do editors/transcribers/publishers (or whoever is responsible) do this deliberately just to frustrate us?? mad cursing


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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Opus45] #1614979
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I've got the book but haven't tackled "Thanksgiving" yet. That's too bad that the transcription isn't accurate. I think one of the reasons he resisted making sheet music available for such a long time is that he said he plays the pieces himself differently each time and never felt there was just one "correct" version. What he may not realize is that his legion of fans will listen to the recordings a gazillion times and judge any deviation from the recording as a mistake.

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I do! I had a lot of fun playing the songs from the December album last Christmas, particularly the Carol of the Bells. It was lots of fun, but right now, I'm more enamored by Yiruma smile I'll save GW for next Christmas again!

I haven't tried Thanksgiving.


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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Monica K.] #1615435
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Originally Posted by Monica K.
..I think one of the reasons he resisted making sheet music available for such a long time is that he said he plays the pieces himself differently each time and never felt there was just one "correct" version. ..

Yes, I've heard that too. I'm pretty sure the mistakes I found on the 3rd page of "Thanksgiving" is not just another variation. If he played it that was in public the audience would gasp in horror. shocked

IMO it's just too careless of an error. Seems there should be corrections available somewhere?

Monica, I've heard most of your recital submissions, Thanksgiving is something you would be able to sight read fairly easily (no kidding!).

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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Opus45] #1615678
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Flattery will get you everywhere, Jeff. 3hearts

In fact, I was so inspired by your confidence in me that I took out my Winston book and sat down to breeze through "Thanksgiving." Ha! help

I need to sit down and follow along with the sheet music while listening to the recording, because there were places as early as the first two lines where my feeble efforts sounded nothing like I remembered the piece. I didn't even make it to page 3.

Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Opus45] #1615703
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Have the book, haven't played Thanksgiving, but I'll have to check it out some time soonish-- like next Thanksgiving!

I wonder if that means that GW didn't do any final play throughs using the music before the score was sent to the publishers. Hmmm, interesting to think about. I can imagine it being difficult for him to force himself to play what's on the score instead of what's in his head!


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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Opus45] #1615862
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Originally Posted by Opus45

Monica, I've heard most of your recital submissions, Thanksgiving is something you would be able to sight read fairly easily (no kidding!).


Yeah, Monica can play David Nevue better than David Nevue.... I'm sure she could play better than George Winston no sweat. Playing exactly like Winston is probably not that easy. He's got stresses and accents for all his phrases in the most unexpected beats in his measures. It kind of messes with your mind.


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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: 4evrBeginR] #1616061
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Originally Posted by 4evr88
..Playing exactly like Winston is probably not that easy. He's got stresses and accents for all his phrases in the most unexpected beats in his measures. ..

Maybe that's what GW means when he says he ofter performs these piano solos differently. I would wager he probably remains fairly consistent with his notation.

Monica, funny because "Thanksgiving" sounds to me like something you would really enjoy. Keep trying, you'll find it is very easy compared to some of the other solos you've done.

Hi Shiro! Would love to know what piano pieces you're working on now. I know you've been busy with grad school, etceteras, but you must be working on something. Right?


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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Opus45] #1616072
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Well, one thing that bothers me right off the bat about that transcription is the constant switching back and forth every couple of measures between treble and bass clef in the left hand. I'd rather deal with a few ledger lines than have to make that mental switch so often. mad

I do love the piece, though, and it's worth working up just to have on tap for entertaining the in-laws after turkey dinner every year...

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Please forgive me for bringing up this thread after eight years but I need to make a confession. The problem with the transcription for "Thanksgiving" had nothing to do with the way it was written on the score, and everything to do with my lack of skill at the time. Since my last post in 2011 about this piece, I've got it under my fingers and it is one of my favorite pieces I've ever learned to play. More than a few times I've felt some guilt about complaining of the faulty score, hoping I didn't discourage anyone from learning this delightfully melodic piano piece.

Last point about this piece. I usually find most piano pieces fairly easy to memorize after I've spent an agonizingly long time learning to play. For some reason I don't understand, this piece is a singular exception for me. Memorizing it seems downright impossible to me!


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Originally Posted by Opus45
Maybe that's what GW means when he says he ofter performs these piano solos differently. I would wager he probably remains fairly consistent with his notation.

I've read that GW is self-taught and does not read music.

(I know this is an old thread, but as the OP just brought it back from the zombie graveyard...)


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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Opus45] #2879542
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I didn't know this song, but just listened to a version of it that he played on YouTube. Nice melody, and chord progresion. Which version of sheet music have you used?


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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Opus45] #2879545
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Am just listening to Thanksgiving now. I'd forgotten how pretty it is! I haven't had a GW piece in my regular repertoire for awhile, maybe now is a good time to add this!

Opus45, I have probably told you this before, but I pretty much never memorize anything these days. I work it into my fingers reading from a paper version of the score, and once I'm playing it up to tempo, I switch to a pdf version on my iPad. I find that this allows me to keep a much larger repertoire of playable pieces, and I can take them all with me, well, expect that portability is somewhat diminished because I have also become addicted to using a bluetooth foot pedal to turn the pdf pages!

Anyway, thanks for the reminder about Thanksgiving! smile


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Re: Anyone else buy George Winston Piano Solos? [Re: Opus45] #2879567
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Tyrone: I recall hearing that too - an enviable skill!

cmb: I'm not sure which version I used my music is at home and I'm stuck in my office right now but I'd be happy to get back to you on that.

SK: If memory serves at one point you played GW version of Carol of the Bells (actually now that I think about it, you played a different version of the Carol, but maybe it was both?). I remember you telling me about pdf versions on your iPad (forScore software right?), and the blue tooth foot pedal. In fact, I hold you personally responsible for me spending money to upgrade my iPad to the latest/greatest version and getting a blue tooth foot pedal! laugh


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There was a 12 page interview of George Winston in Keyboard Magazine c Jan 1984. That is also available in a compendium called "New Age Musicians" published by Hal Leonard in 1989.

His musical background and motivations were much different from what I expected. He is very musical.

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I found these transcriptions on line a while ago, they are pretty decent: http://www.sheetmusic1.com/winston.html


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Opus45, the Carol of the Bells version that I arranged didn’t actually include anything from GW’s arrangement , it was from a traditional version plus the version by Michelle McLaughlin, those two were in the same key but GW’s wasn’t.


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