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Re: Best way to learn pop piano? [Re: FrostyKeys] #2879521
08/14/19 11:13 AM
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I've just read through this entire thread and I wanted to say that I'm appreciative of TonyB's posts about the Higginson method. I purchased this method because though I can read music and learn pieces, I'm weak on doing things "on the fly." I just started playing piano and so my technique is horrible, my muscle control and brain-muscle connections aren't quite there yet though I'm getting better. I played guitar for 30+ years and so I sort of want to do what TonyB described which is "get a lead sheet, run through it once or twice and then be able to make a solid arrangement of it to accompany a singer" and if possible later on, to make a solo arrangement out of it.

I've tried the "6 note chord" thing so far and I realize what he's doing by piecing out the inversions like this, it helps with not being overwhelmed which is what happens to me when there are too many possible avenues at any one moment.

I started the Sudnow method but for me, it's waaayyyy tooo dense. Those huge block chords are difficult and hard to remember for me. The Higginson simple "this is the inversion you use" backdoor method is better for me at this point. He's pared it down to a manageable level that works for me.

My wife is even going to start trying it and she's never played any instrument in her life...we shall see.

I'm waiting on the materials to arrive, I ordered the downloadable version.

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Re: Best way to learn pop piano? [Re: FrostyKeys] #2879759
08/15/19 06:36 AM
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I hope you report back on your experience with Higginson.

Re: Best way to learn pop piano? [Re: tm3] #2879804
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Originally Posted by tm3
I hope you report back on your experience with Higginson.

I did post this in the adult beginners section just now:


http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...way-to-play-chord-style.html#Post2879802


And I'll keep everyone updated as I go through it.

Re: Best way to learn pop piano? [Re: FrostyKeys] #2879855
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I used a similar program to learn,

www.piano-play-it.com

Accompany section is a great way to start. I like it because it's free, and I'm frugle

Re: Best way to learn pop piano? [Re: FrostyKeys] #2879951
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Here is my take on things. The best way to go from basic theory as described in the very first post, to a more accomplished stage is to learn folk songs, basic simple folk songs on your own. Thye will show you how to get your fingers going from different inversions. A piano player is a self made (wo) man. It's not in this book or that, its what the individual has mastered. No one can do this for you. Basic travelling across the keyboard in differnt methods is also important, for example, once you hacve mastered all your scales and chords in root position, try block chords in inversions gonig up asnd down the keyboard, once that is flowing freely, then try spearing out the chords fro their root position and adding 6th and ninths, then non chordal tones. This takes a LOT of practice but when this is done, then you get that flexibility that you need as a pop pianist.
Also work on repertiore, instead of learing from a book, take a song you want to learn, figure out yourself what the notes are. Even if you figure out only the first eight bars you will learn much more than if you learn the whole song from a book. Your ear wil improve and as with everything, if you persist, the process of learning a song without music notation will begin to9 get second nature and even instant. That's what a good pop pianist can do.
Caveat: Yes there are elements from certain styles - blues, stride, ballad etc that one needs some familiarity with, learning say a Jerry Lee Lewis song from a book will do wonders for your boogie. But, its got to be yours- you must own it

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