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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2867725
07/09/19 03:56 PM
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My visit in the store lasted roughly 20 minutes for three reasons. 1 - I was in Glasgow traveling to the airport on holiday with my family, 2 - there, in the store were a lot of people, which resulted a huge noise of talks and sounds of other instruments and 3 - no White Grand sample on Nord Grand, which I missed a complete feeling of this instrument. 
So, my testing of Nord Grand IMO is incomplete and insufficient, but it's always something.

Generally, the Nord Grand from the seat point does't look like a huge block, but again from an aesthetic point of view, it looks like a premium stage piano - not a flat board like the rest of nord instruments. Especially the upper red surface of the instrument looks beautiful.

Desktop of NG is the same simple as a Nord piano 4. The difference only is the control panel is oblique and panel buttons are quite close to the keyboard, which can actually results in accidental pressing of them, which actually also happened me twice while playing, so the key lock button is really desired in this instrument.

The keyboard has a very pleasant Ivory Touch imitation effect, without exaggerated structure and makes a very pleasant impression. The keyboard works almost quietly like in a digital pianos in full cabinet, which is due to the built-in velvet tape dampening the noise of keys, which has never been available before in any nord gears. The keyboard action in weight, IMO is medium enough (not too light, not too heavy), it has a noticeable escapement but the fast runs are not a problem. 
Who knows Kawai ES8, MP7SE or CN27/37 will be know how this keyboard works. The third keyboard sensor has a deep range of operation, which results in it's a high usability.

Comparing to other keyboards - apart from NG, there were in the store also Nord Piano 4 and Yamaha CP88. 
NP4 keyboard was clearly lighter than NG and the feeling of escapement was definitely less noticeable in NP4 than in the NG, not to mention the touch of plastic surface of NP4 keyboard. Yamaha CP88 keyboard also with Ivory Touch was slightly heavier. The difference in action between CP88 and NG is more about the character of the action. Personally, I don't like Yamahas keys action.

I am not writing anything about the sound, because on the board of the Nord Grand, were samples which every nord user know well (Royal Grand 3D, Amber Upright, etc.). 

I need to try and play on NG at least once more time again but in full silence and also with included the White Grand sample on the board.

P.S. This week I will be trying Kawai ES8 and probably MP7SE. After 20th of July I will try Korg Grandstage.


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2868397
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Another one review from Andertons:
https://youtu.be/8Yc1Aqq1ZFQ


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: RichieBill] #2868422
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Originally Posted by RichieBill
Another one review from Andertons:
https://youtu.be/8Yc1Aqq1ZFQ


It looks ace! Can't wait to try it out.


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2869706
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I found 2 another examples of White Grand:
https://youtu.be/ZJmzx3zFlU4
https://youtu.be/DY5Mtqo8zZs


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2873828
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This is a post from the Nord Users forum about the Nord Grand:

Originally Posted by SolMaster
Yesterday I spent quite a long time with the Nord Grand in Guitar Guitar Glasgow. As a Nord user, I am very familiar with all the piano samples, (which in my opinion are the best sounding of any portable keyboard) so I was only really there to see how it felt to play, rather than how it sounded.
I own a Yamaha U3, which I play a lot at home, so I was comparing the action to that, rather than my Stage 3.
First of all, I didn't want to stop playing it (which says rather a lot!)
Secondly, I left thinking that's the closest keyboard feel to a real acoustic piano keybed. It really was that good.
If you were a pianist looking for a portable unit to do solo work, accompanying vocalists or part of a small combo, look no further, it's really that good to play.
The question might now be whether Nord will continue with their Piano 4, apart from the obvious price difference.
Due to the various types of music and groups I play in, the Stage is still the do it all workhorse, but if I did more solo and accompaniment work, it would be the Nord Grand all the way.


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: HwyStar] #2873921
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Very nice beginning of your signature HwyStar smile
Give a shout when your red Graal will landed. First impressions always are hottest.
P.S. How did you set small font size of your signature?

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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2873928
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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2874027
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No reason for me not to buy this when i try it soon.

- Keybed: Check. The ES8 action was hands down my favorite between all kawai actions i tried.
- Sounds: This will be the main deciding factor.
- Price: Well, let's say my G.A.S and money savings are on good terms for this one. My wallet gave the ticket pass for this purchase.



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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2878134
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Again another one Nord Grand review:
https://youtu.be/b0yLSe5WS_M


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: RichieBill] #2878151
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Originally Posted by RichieBill
Again another one Nord Grand review:
https://youtu.be/b0yLSe5WS_M


"The difference between the Kawai keybeds and the Fatar keybeds is that the Kawai keybeds actually do have hammers."

Wha...


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Gombessa] #2878180
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Originally Posted by RichieBill
Again another one Nord Grand review:
https://youtu.be/b0yLSe5WS_M


"The difference between the Kawai keybeds and the Fatar keybeds is that the Kawai keybeds actually do have hammers."

Wha...

I think, this sentence is incomplete. Probably he meant "hammer simulators" or something similar but I agree - representative of Company should to explain it properly and much more detailed, especially in this case of keyboard action, which is so important aspect of this instrument.

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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2878208
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Played on a Nord Grand the other day and the similarity between fatar and the RH3 from kawai is that they don’t have let-off..whereas the ES8 with the same action does. I wonder why that was left out.

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: jamiecw] #2878211
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I found this comment on YouTube:

Originally Posted by Sara Hyannis
To all pianoworld members, there’s a secret Facebook group that makes fun of each and every pianoworld member (well at least the ones that hang out at the “digital pianos” section of the forum). We have memes, videos, pictures, names and jokes about many of your members and their snobby pathetic behavior. The group has now roughly over 600 members. When we reach 1000, we plan on making the group public and show the world what a pathetic piece of [censored] species you are.


The same person used to comment on my videos. I have no clue who that is shocked

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Chopin Acolyte] #2878214
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Originally Posted by Chopin Acolyte
I found this comment on YouTube:

Originally Posted by Sara Hyannis
To all pianoworld members, there’s a secret Facebook group that makes fun of each and every pianoworld member (well at least the ones that hang out at the “digital pianos” section of the forum). We have memes, videos, pictures, names and jokes about many of your members and their snobby pathetic behavior. The group has now roughly over 600 members. When we reach 1000, we plan on making the group public and show the world what a pathetic piece of [censored] species you are.


The same person used to comment on my videos. I have no clue who that is shocked

Yes, the same person was also commenting under my videos with this and other registrations.

P.S. we’re in the wrong thread though.

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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: CyberGene] #2878219
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Originally Posted by CyberGene

P.S. we’re in the wrong thread though.


I don't think so, that comment was posted on the Nord review video... (I censored some really naughty words)

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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Chopin Acolyte] #2878222
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Whoa!! It is rare for me to think Get a life! but don't these people have anything better to do???

(For instance, practising the piano smile )


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2878225
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Which Nord YT video has this comment? There are a few videos now.


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: HwyStar] #2878264
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Originally Posted by HwyStar
Which Nord YT video has this comment? There are a few videos now.


The last one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0yLSe5WS_M the Sara Hyannis' comments are deleted, but you can still see the other comments.

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Animisha] #2878265
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Originally Posted by Animisha
Whoa!! It is rare for me to think Get a life! but don't these people have anything better to do???

(For instance, practising the piano smile )

One of the few pop musical groups I listened to as a kid was Talking Heads. From their output, there is a David Byrne song which seems appropriate:



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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2878266
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Thanks, Chopin Acolyte.


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