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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2874850
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In that very first description (see link above) it seems that CVP800 will have the same sound engine like in Genos. I don't know which engine is included in N3X.
Very interesting the internal memory (2 GB) for audio recording without any external USB device.

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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2874883
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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: mimi9] #2874914
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The italian website, too. So this piano is now released in every country I believe. But we must wait next fall to try it in the stores.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: mimi9] #2874949
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Originally Posted by mimi9

I don't see any CVP-801 yet. Did Yamaha decide to ax the lowest range of the CVP lineup?

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/clavinova/index.html

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It seems. Also the official release note linked above speaks of just 3 models (CVP805, CVP809 and CVP809GP). I suspect that most CVP801 possible customers are oriented to CSP series now, so they axed the little model. But this is my opinion, no information here.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2874991
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I’m very confused. Looking at the online Yamaha site, under the ‘Overview’ section, the ‘Features’ area states that the CVP 800 series has a built-in Bluetooth, but.... under the ‘Smart Pianist section’, bottom- ‘Using SmartPianist together with a CVP-800 Series Clavinova’, it states: “A. Connect using a cable An Apple Lightning - USB Camera Adapter and USB cable (sold separately) are required.
Connect the USB cable to the USB TO HOST port on the instrument. *If you are using iPad pro 12.9 inch 3rd generation or iPad pro 11inch, please use Apple USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter or Apple USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter” “B. Connect wirelessly using Wi-Fi. *Varies by area
The UD-WL01 (sold separately) must be purchased to use a wireless connection. Connect the UD-WL01 to the USB TO DEVICE port on the instrument.”
So.... which is it? : A. Built-in Bluetooth, B. USB Camera Adapter and USB Cable, C. Connect wirelessly using Wi-Fi With adapter, or D. All of the above. Any suggestions from anyone? Or did they just copied from the CVP 709 brochure?

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2875001
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On the Yamaha CVP-800 Overview video, at 2:18, the demo guy connects an iPhone to the piano via Bluetooth. The caption says "Bluetooth Audio connection - enjoy music on your smart device via powerful speakers".

Nothing about Smart Pianist as far as I know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT4pJCKOXPg

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On the Yamaha CVP-800 Overview video, at 2:18, the demo guy connects an iPhone to the piano via Bluetooth. The caption says "Bluetooth Audio connection - enjoy music on your smart device via powerful speakers".

Nothing about Smart Pianist as far as I know.
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I’m talking about the WRITE version, not the first introduced audio.

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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2875057
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I'm not sure I understand. What is the "WRITE" version? Do you mean written documentation?

My assumption from the video is that the Bluetooth connection only works to connect an iPhone/iPad to the speakers. Since they don't mention Smart Pianist in the video, I would guess that the connection information (no Bluetooth) that you quoted is probably still how Smart Pianist works with the CVP-809.

But since nobody around here has seen one of these pianos yet nor is there any real documentation available yet, who knows?

And yes, I did put up that link and under the Smart Pianist tab it says there is a cable connection and a WiFi connection. Nothing there about Bluetooth so again the chances are there is no Bluetooth connection for Smart Pianist. And that seems to be confirmed in the video which is why I mentioned it.





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Actually, I'm wrong. They already have the Owners Manual and Reference Manual posted. You can check them out for yourself.

https://usa.yamaha.com/support/manuals/index.html?l=en&c=digital_pianos&k=CVP-809

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2875078
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I don't believe Yamaha instruments feature built-in Bluetooth MIDI (which is how apps such as Smart Pianist communicate with the instrument), only Bluetooth Audio. However, Bluetooth MIDI functionality can be added by purchasing the MD-BT01 adapter or the original version produced by Quiccosound.

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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2875080
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Thanks, James.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2875095
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Thank you both mimi 9 and Kawai James for the Bluetooth update. Now I understand. Yamaha should be more specific about what is Bluetooth accessibility AND WHAT IS NOT. By the way, mimi9, I wrote ´written´, my ipad decided to change it to ´write´. I noticed it also ,as you did, after the fact. Just hate the auto-correction.

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Yeah, they obviously tried to make the Bluetooth update seem like a big deal but it really doesn't amount to much.

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Anyone got the chance to try this new piano? I read that it is available from August 13th, but maybe only in the USA. Surely not in Italy yet. Probably in the coming fall in Europe.

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Be patient, it will take a while. Where did you read that it was available on 08/19? All sites online state, “AVAILABLE IN THE FALL”. This could be: Sept., Oct. or Nov. The USA is expecting it as soon as possible as much as the rest of the world: from Australia to Europe to America (both North and South).

Notice (online) that their introduction videos were worldwide which started on 7/31–8/01 and renewed on 08/08, as of today. Originally, the CVP 800 series should have been introduced back in May/19, but delayed because of complications...?..

By the way, I check the internet for information and pass it on, I’m not a piano dealer or anything as such.

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2880519
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Just providing some additional information for this thread,

The CVP-701 will remain in the line up for sometime. It will remain an entry level CVP.

The very first CVP 800 series pianos in the USA will ship to dealers in Sept. so by month's end you should be able to play them live and in person.


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Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2880550
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I am sorry, but there is barely no innovation in this product range compared to its predecessor the 709 thats 5 years old..

Re: CVP-800 series thread [Re: R111] #2880584
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How can you say this? No one tried them yet. I believe it is not a good thing to speak badly of a new product when it is not there. Or, maybe, someone has the corresponding old product or must sell it, so he/she says that new one is not so good..... it would be not the first time unfortunately.

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