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Has anyonetoured Portland Oregon in their shopping for a piano? From craigslist I think I’ve found Portland piano company , Michelle’s piano company , and Classic Pianos ( which seems to have a separate show room of concert and semi concert grands.). Has anyone visited these stores , tried out pianos , noted range of prices ? I’m searching for a Steinway model D, probably needing rebuild as the budget really can’t stretch beyond $45,000 ( for an already rebuilt D).

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Hi Coda9,

Although I am on the East Coast, I have spent a decent amount of time at the Rodgers Organ factory in Hillsboro, Oregon over the years. Being a fan of seeing how others do it, I have wandered Portland and have stopped in at all of the dealers you mentioned. However, over time the lines being carried change and sometimes people change, but I truly think you could find a piano you love at any of the stores mentioned.

I personally think the coolest piano store in town is Classic Pianos. The showroom is a collection of buildings and they usually have the most diverse selection in the area - at least in my experience.

I look forward to hearing more about your experiences and what you find. Good luck and keep us posted.


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I've been to all the stores you mentioned and had pleasant experiences at all. Michelle's was probably the least friendly, but maybe that's because they are a Steinway dealer. wink
As Rich noted, Classic Pianos has a unique showroom and a good selection. Portland Piano Co. is my favorite. They were friendly, low pressure and had a good selection and you don't have to venture into the bowels of Portland to visit them. I ended up buying my Grotrian there and it was a good experience. There was a guy, in Lake Oswego, that had some rebuilt Steinway's displayed in his home and advertised on eBay. I don't think he had a D when I visited last year and I can't remember his name.

Good luck with your search.

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My impression based on NYC rebuilders(Steinway Hall, Faust Harrison, Beethoven, Klavierhaus) is that their stock of rebuilt Ds is extremely small. So since you're looking for a difficult to find piano, I'd suggest calling each of the dealers you mentioned and asking if they have any Ds and what the asking price is.

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I have visited both major stores in Portland before and agree with Rich’s above take on things. Enjoy your shopping trip!
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I’ve purchased both my large digitals at the Classic in Bellevue, WA, which is the same company. They have been extremely pleasant, patient and fair in dealing with me. I’ll definitely be heading to their showroom next time I’m in Portland. It looks like a neat space and they have more far more used inventory in Portland. When I eventually convince my wife to let me buy an acoustic I will be heading to Classic.


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Michelle's has a fabulous selection of pianos and we were delighted with the staff there. Prices on a D can be hugely negotiable since there is such low demand.

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Do also visit Portland Piano Company, which is very close to the airport.


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It's interesting that Portland has such a large number of and apparently thriving piano stores given the relatively small population compared to the Seattle area. I suspect it may have to do with the lack of sales tax...


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It's interesting that Portland has such a large number of and apparently thriving piano stores given the relatively small population compared to the Seattle area. I suspect it may have to do with the lack of sales tax...


How does that affect you if you buy while a resident of another state?

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If they ship your piano to another state, you have to pay your own state's sales tax. If you bought in California, though, you would have to pay California tax even if you live elsewhere because it's an "origin tax state".

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Classic Pianos has a sister store close to me called Pianowerkes. 5 star rating and the Portland store is even bigger with more selection. If you have the opportunity to check out the showroom, I doubt you’d be disappointed.


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It's interesting that Portland has such a large number of and apparently thriving piano stores given the relatively small population compared to the Seattle area. I suspect it may have to do with the lack of sales tax...


How does that affect you if you buy while a resident of another state?


People in the great state of Washington have found many ways to take advantage of this. The most obvious is you arrange your own transport. The less obvious are the booming business of establishing Oregon residence or package forwarding companies. I'm not saying it's legal, but there's a reason the WA state legislature keeps trying to make it harder to avoid sales tax and it's not because everyone follows the law smile


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If you provide an Oregon address they will not charge you any sales tax.

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Now that Classic has a store in Bellevue, they must collect sales tax for all pianos delivered to Washington State. Sales tax evasion by Washington state residents has significantly affected my business. The fact that Amazon got away without collecting them in most states for so long was a travesty of justice. A signature of weak, (corrupt?) Legislators, Administrators, Courts? Why an internet based business gets to break all the rules other businesses must follow has never been obvious to me. Internet commerce is just business on a two-way television.

If the OP wants to experience the worlds leading piano technology, please visit my shop in Mukilteo WA.


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Originally Posted by Ed McMorrow, RPT
Now that Classic has a store in Bellevue, they must collect sales tax for all pianos delivered to Washington State. Sales tax evasion by Washington state residents has significantly affected my business. The fact that Amazon got away without collecting them in most states for so long was a travesty of justice. A signature of weak, (corrupt?) Legislators, Administrators, Courts? Why an internet based business gets to break all the rules other businesses must follow has never been obvious to me. Internet commerce is just business on a two-way television.

If the OP wants to experience the worlds leading piano technology, please visit my shop in Mukilteo WA.

Ed - I’m not any piano-related business but that state taxes and fees has presented numerous issues on lots of big ticket purchases like vehicles. Buy a new Jeep in a different state that has a lower price because it’s a port city and then drive the vehicle back home. Or buy the vehicle and have it shipped to your home. But what dealer does your maintenance? I’ve seen the carvana commercials but where or when do you get to test drive? I can’t imagine buying a car without a test drive. Where do they have test drive vehicles. That’s precisely why I just don’t get Tesla. ***Soapbox***** How can you select a new car, truck, or SUV without test driving? Vehicles come with such a dizzying array of features no two on a dealership lot are exactly the same.
Every piano is slightly different from its siblings. Even mass produced pianos. The biggest problem to online acoustic piano sales is shipping cost. And then making sure it’s prepped. And it might require several plane trips to try out. Maybe for a complete dream piano at an unheard of price. For me, for acoustic pianos I’ll stick with my local piano dealer. And I’ll stick by my favorite piano tech! Local always wins in that race. Now I will shop aggressively online for digital because one Casio sounds and plays pretty much like the next one and requires the same setup skills as a flat screen or a laptop.


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