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Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X #2871335
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Looks like the price is the same here in Russia. And they say SH2 silent system doesn't alter the touch. The spacing required is almost the same too. Which instrument would you choose?


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Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: PianoStartsAt33] #2871345
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In the US, N3X costs even less than GC1. If the price is the same most probably you are overpaying N3X. Try lowering down the price.

If the price of N3X is not negotiable, and you have to pick one from these two, then I will probably get C1X SH2. Despite the fact that it is a 5'3 small piano, I tried C1X and N3X side by side. Personally I prefer the feel of playing C1X. I will pick C1X SH2, and the only hassle of an acoustic piano is that you need to spend time and money to tune the piano.

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Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: Harpuia] #2871363
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Originally Posted by Harpuia
In the US, N3X costs even less than GC1. If the price is the same most probably you are overpaying N3X. Try lowering down the price.


Without SH2 system it's less, yeah...
And N3X initial price here is about 23 800$. What's in US?

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Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: PianoStartsAt33] #2871364
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Last month I saw the listing price of N3X is $14,999 here in Seattle. It must still have some room to negotiate. I won't pay $23,800 for N3X.

Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: PianoStartsAt33] #2871419
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It's probably stating the obvious but if you want to hear the digital piano on the C1X SH2 you'll need to use headphones or external powered speakers. The C1X Transacoustic adds what's effectively a speaker system (inducer connected to the soundboard) to the C1X SH2 so you can play the digital piano at any volume without headphones/external speakers or mix the acoustic piano with digital sounds, e.g. strings.

I've played both the N3X and C1X, C2X, C3X on the same day in the same store and would go Transacoustic if funds allowed.

Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: dhts] #2871425
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Originally Posted by dhts
It's probably stating the obvious but if you want to hear the digital piano on the C1X SH2 you'll need to use headphones or external powered speakers. The C1X Transacoustic adds what's effectively a speaker system (inducer connected to the soundboard) to the C1X SH2 so you can play the digital piano at any volume without headphones/external speakers or mix the acoustic piano with digital sounds, e.g. strings.

I've played both the N3X and C1X, C2X, C3X on the same day in the same store and would go Transacoustic if funds allowed.


I read about this technology on Yamaha's site, but there is a lack of explanation and I still do not understand fully how it works.


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Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: PianoStartsAt33] #2871432
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So far as I understand it where as a normal speaker uses a magnet to move a paper cone, the Transacoustic system uses a magnet to vibrate the soundboard, effectively turning the whole soundboard into a speaker.

For a digital piano there's some benefit to this as the strings themselves will vibrate to a degree but in tune with what's being played.

So you can switch the piano into 'silent' node so that the acoustic piano doesn't sound, but have the digital piano sound through the soundboard as if it was a normal digital piano with speakers.

If all you want is an acoustic piano that allows you to practice with headphones then there's no value, but having the system opens up some more creative options if like me you also work with other keyboards and synths as you should be able to link them via midi and audio to the grand piano.

Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: PianoStartsAt33] #2871443
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I have a Yamaha N3X and love it... I paid $13,999 US. I probably would have been happy to pay a bit more, but almost $24,000 is too much. If you can't get the price down then I think you don't have much of a choice.

I have not played the C1X so I cannot speak to your comparison... I did compare the N3X side-by-side with a shorter GB1K (also with silent function and $500 cheaper) ... and chose the N3X due to the deeper resonance... it just sounds so good. I'd strongly recommend listening to the lower register of the two pianos very closely.

There's also the functionality to think about - having a digital piano has been good for connecting to my iPad and using all sorts of apps with it. I hadn't considered this when I was making my initial purchase but glad I have this ability. It's been fun for connecting to educational apps, controlling the piano's sound, playing MIDI files, and using Garage Band.

Good luck!


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Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: dhts] #2871447
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Originally Posted by dhts
So far as I understand it where as a normal speaker uses a magnet to move a paper cone, the Transacoustic system uses a magnet to vibrate the soundboard, effectively turning the whole soundboard into a speaker.

For a digital piano there's some benefit to this as the strings themselves will vibrate to a degree but in tune with what's being played.

So you can switch the piano into 'silent' node so that the acoustic piano doesn't sound, but have the digital piano sound through the soundboard as if it was a normal digital piano with speakers.

If all you want is an acoustic piano that allows you to practice with headphones then there's no value, but having the system opens up some more creative options if like me you also work with other keyboards and synths as you should be able to link them via midi and audio to the grand piano.


The TransAcoustic uses two transducers, with magnets, mounted to the soundboard in order to vibrate the soundboard so that it acts as a speaker. You can see a diagram in a Davis Pogue’s review of the Yamaha U1 TransAcoustic:



The TransAcoustic pianos are expensive but I love the idea of being able to play digital samples of any piano on the soundboard of the piano you own. You can also control the volume of the digital playback on that soundboard, something which I think is really neat. I’m going to start by renting a Silent U1 but a TransAcoustic is on my list of pianos to upgrade to eventually. I want a piano with hammers and strings, but also the ability to play silently.

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Re: Yamaha C1X SH2 (Silent) vs Yamaha N3X [Re: PianoStartsAt33] #2871448
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The GB1K is a significantly cheaper piano (around half the price of the C1X in the UK). I played that also and it's a pretty unimpressive instrument by comparison, designed I guess for people whose priority is a grand piano form and are less concerned with how it sounds or plays.


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