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Help me to choose a compact mixer please. #2871183
07/21/19 01:18 PM
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It is just to play Pianoteq along music files or ireal pro. As I have seen in other posts any 2 stereo channel mixer will do the job but I would like something durable and with decent sound quality (a base for future little home studio) . I found these three:

Mackie 402-VLZ4
Yamaha MG06
Allen & Heath ZED-6

I do not think I will use the EQ, but all of them bring this feature.

The Mackie has a TAPE IN which bypasses the EQ circuitry so I guess that meand better sound quality for the piano. Any thouhgts?

Thanks

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Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Daniel_m] #2871189
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Just saw this one:

https://www.thomann.de/es/soundcraft_notepad_5.htm

One mic input less, which I don´t need, and USB interface which is great to play back Pianoteq with better quality than my laptop soundcard. I was thinking to buy a better interface la Focusrite or Presonus but for this money I think I can try and upgrade later if I need to. What about Soundcraft quality?

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Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Daniel_m] #2871202
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Soundcraft products are so good! I would not buy Mackie because they are old mixers, produced some years ago. Allen & Heat and Yamaha are both good solution, but if you found the best for you in Soundcraft.... yes! Go ahead, and you will not regret.

Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Daniel_m] #2871255
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I'd go for the Yamaha or the Mackie.
Originally Posted by Daniel_m
It is just to play Pianoteq along music files or ireal pro. As I have seen in other posts any 2 stereo channel mixer will do the job but I would like something durable and with decent sound quality (a base for future little home studio) . I found these three:

Mackie 402-VLZ4
Yamaha MG06
Allen & Heath ZED-6

I do not think I will use the EQ, but all of them bring this feature. The Mackie has a TAPE IN which bypasses the EQ circuitry so I guess that meand better sound quality for the piano. Any thouhgts?

Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: MacMacMac] #2871348
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I ordered the Soundcraft before I read your post because I found it for only 68€ and has the usb. Why do you think the others are better?

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Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Daniel_m] #2871387
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I have no opinion on any of these mixers. I own a Shure mixer.

Regardless ... I stick with the name brands.
Name is no guarantee, but generally they've been around for a long time.
That means that people keep buying their stuff. And that means something to me.

Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Daniel_m] #2871450
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I have two small Yamaha mixers, the MG10XU and the MG06X. Both are the ones that have effects. I only use them in my home. I have them attached to 2 different speaker setups a JBL LSR-308 and a Roland CM-220. Both work great and they are on almost constantly. If I need to plug a keyboard or other instrument in for practice, recording or just impromptu jams, I use these. For analog mixers they are pretty hard to beat. In fact every mixer listed here are very good. Except maybe the Mackie, I haven't used any of their mixers so I can't really judge them. But I have a lot of experience with Allen & Heath, Yamaha and Soundcraft mixers. I depending on your needs you really can't go wrong with any of these. For gigs I use digital mixers.


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Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Daniel_m] #2871453
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Originally Posted by Daniel_m
Mackie 402-VLZ4
Yamaha MG06
Allen & Heath ZED-6

Personally, I’d go for the Yamaha MG or Mackie VLZ, but all 3 are good mixer brands to choose from.

The Mackie VLZ series was synonymous for decades with rock-solid reliability. Back when people only swore by Mackie mixers, it was the VLZ series they were swearing by. (that might have way way been before your time)

The Allen & Heath brand is well known in DJ circles, it’s one of the first brands I usually hear when my older DJ buddies talk about mixers.

I can personally vouch for the Yamaha MG mixers. Been using them for 4-5 years for DJ’ing, gigging and dance parties. They’ve been rock solid and never had any problems even in harsh environments or travel conditions. I would encourage you to get the MG06-X (vs. the MG06) - the extra onboard F/X are useful when room acoustics are being difficult, also useful for singers and other live instruments. If you have the budget the MG10-XU has the most bang for the buck and includes USB Audio (X=F/X U=USB Audio).

One last thing to consider:
You could skip the mixer if you run everything from the laptop. For example, my MacBook runs (Pianoteq, iReal Pro, iTunes, a Metronome and when I used it Piano Marvel) - it greatly simplifies the setup so I only need 1x line out to the headphones or speakers.


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Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Groove On] #2871704
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Originally Posted by Groove On

One last thing to consider:
You could skip the mixer if you run everything from the laptop. For example, my MacBook runs (Pianoteq, iReal Pro, iTunes, a Metronome and when I used it Piano Marvel) - it greatly simplifies the setup so I only need 1x line out to the headphones or speakers.



I think this is a very good idea. I am moving towards Pianoteq and I only want to mix Pianoteq with playalongs that can be mp3 files or irealb (can be run on pc via android emulator, apparently). With this scenario I am considering stretching my budget and buy a good quality interface instead of the mixer.

Many thanks!

Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Daniel_m] #2871938
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I have some more beginner questions.

I do not have monitors at the moment but will get them in the future. Could I skip the sound interface and connect the laptop headphones output to the monitors and get good sound quality? Also, could I do the same from the FP30 headphones output to the monitors?

Re: Help me to choose a compact mixer please. [Re: Daniel_m] #2871945
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It's worth a try ... but I suspect the sound levels will be too low.


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