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Your Top VSTs #2870195
07/17/19 11:57 PM
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What are your top VSTs for these keyboard categories?

Pianos
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Organs (Hammond etc.)
Synths (Moog, Prophet, Oberheim etc.)


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Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870196
07/17/19 11:59 PM
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I only use pianos. For me it is the VSL Synchron CFX and Steinway. I do love Vienna Imperial too, but it needs to be updated.

Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870198
07/18/19 12:09 AM
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Pianos only: Galaxy Vintage D, The Grandeur, Kawai EX Pro

Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870201
07/18/19 01:23 AM
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Piano: C. Bechstein Digital Grand and Pianoteq Steingraeber

Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870218
07/18/19 03:55 AM
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Piano only: The Grotrian (most of the time) and Bechstein DG (less of the time) from Pianoteq. I don't own other VST's.


Roland FP-30, Roland E-28, Pianoteq 6.5 (Bechstein DG, Grotrian, Steinway D, K2)
Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870220
07/18/19 04:04 AM
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Garritan CFX. But I need to test the VSL libraries.


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Currently: Yamaha N1X, DIY hybrid controller -> Garritan CFX
Previously: NU1X, ES7, MP6, CA63, RD-700SX, CDP-100, FP-5, P90, SP-200
Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870222
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For synths my favourites are

Arturia CS80
Arturia Jupiter 8
Arturia ARP 2600

Omnisphere

Also have NI Komplete 12, loads of good things in there such as Massive, Reactor, various Kontakt Instruments etc

When I’m just messing around, the three Arturia synths are the ones I tend to play with most (but do have the entire Arturia V collection)

As a youngster (17 in 1981) I always wanted a Jupiter 8 but didn’t have the funds. That said I did get to own many synths that are now considered classics such as Korg Trident, Roland Juno 106, Ensoniq SQ80, looking back, out of all of them I think I loved the SQ80 the most.

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Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870225
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I have a few piano vst's, i would rank them like this:

1. Vi labs ravenscroft
2. Garritan Cfx (full)

3. Acousticsamples kawai ex pro
4. Synthogy ivory 1
5. Imperfect samples fazioli

For solo playing, out of these 5 i'd say only ravenscroft and cfx are really worth buying right now, as they simply outclass the older vst's.

For production use of course everything could be interesting, but that fazioli is quite interesting and full of character. I ranked it last because it's playability is the worst, but i think it sounds amazing.


Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: U3piano] #2870266
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Originally Posted by U3piano
I have a few piano vst's, i would rank them like this:

1. Vi labs ravenscroft
2. Garritan Cfx (full)

3. Acousticsamples kawai ex pro
4. Synthogy ivory 1
5. Imperfect samples fazioli

For solo playing, out of these 5 i'd say only ravenscroft and cfx are really worth buying right now, as they simply outclass the older vst's.

For production use of course everything could be interesting, but that fazioli is quite interesting and full of character. I ranked it last because it's playability is the worst, but i think it sounds amazing.


Good thing you rank ravenscroft over Garritan CFX because I was pondering buying the Garritan. I already own both The Ravenscroft app and full version but still prefer the Grotian Pianoteq piano for it's playability and quality sound. I personally believe it's the best compromise between the two. High quality sound and fantastic control. Of course neither of these compare (nor come anywhere close) to feel and sound from my Shigeru Kawai acoustic. I wish there was a way to make my Ravenscroft VST more sensitive to my finger input. It's just not there right now.

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Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870297
07/18/19 11:02 AM
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Pianos: Pianoteq Steinway D & Addictive Keys Studio Grand
EP: Lounge Lizard 4
Organs: VB3
Synths: Omnisphere 2, Synthmaster, Alchemy, various other Mainstage / Logic synths

I have a lot of others but these are my go to.


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Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: CyberGene] #2870318
07/18/19 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
Garritan CFX. But I need to test the VSL libraries.


Same on both counts. But I recall something about those USB eLicensor dongles that completely puts me off. CFX has such a reasonable and effortless DRM model that I really don't want to deal with anything more user-unfriendly.


Yamaha P-85, P-105, CP50, Kawai MP11 || Kawai NV-10
Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870334
07/18/19 01:01 PM
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VSL pianos (CFX, Steinway, Bösendorfer : Vienna Imperial), Garritan CFX, Bechstein Digital Grand are my favourite.

One of the 2 CFX is probably too much for my needs. I have found them very close.


Yamaha CLP150, Bechstein Digital Grand, Garritan CFX, Ivory II pianos, Galaxy pianos, EWQL Pianos, Native-Instrument The Definitive Piano Collection, Soniccouture Hammersmith, Truekeys, Pianoteq
Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Jethro] #2870361
07/18/19 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jethro

Good thing you rank ravenscroft over Garritan CFX because I was pondering buying the Garritan. I already own both The Ravenscroft app and full version but still prefer the Grotian Pianoteq piano for it's playability and quality sound. I personally believe it's the best compromise between the two. High quality sound and fantastic control. Of course neither of these compare (nor come anywhere close) to feel and sound from my Shigeru Kawai acoustic. I wish there was a way to make my Ravenscroft VST more sensitive to my finger input. It's just not there right now.


Well it's personal of course. The cfx is also great, and the favorite of many others, you might just love it.

Me, i already had the cfx for a while, and bought Ravenscroft so I could switch back and forth between these vst's, but it turns out i like it even better than the cfx so i use it all the time. I might even decide to sell the cfx because of this, but im not sure about that yet.

Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870366
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Too late to edit my post, but just wanted to say this:

Don't get me wrong. I don't think ravenscroft has better playability than the cfx, i would rank them equally in that regard. i just feel more like im playing a real piano with ravenscroft more so than with the cfx, I think it's just in the way it sounds.

Im a self-thought amateur player, and have no trouble with the response of either these vst's, I think the playability is great on both.

Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: U3piano] #2870381
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Originally Posted by U3piano
Too late to edit my post, but just wanted to say this:

Don't get me wrong. I don't think ravenscroft has better playability than the cfx, i would rank them equally in that regard. i just feel more like im playing a real piano with ravenscroft more so than with the cfx, I think it's just in the way it sounds.

Im a self-thought amateur player, and have no trouble with the response of either these vst's, I think the playability is great on both.

I'm sure their playability is on par with one another. Have fun!

Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Gombessa] #2870503
07/19/19 03:55 AM
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Piano: VSL CFX and Steinway D - with a slight preference for the CFX at the moment.
I have many sampled piano and Pianoteq (the Steingraeber is not bad at all), but these two leave all the other ones in the dust IMO.

Originally Posted by Gombessa
Originally Posted by CyberGene
Garritan CFX. But I need to test the VSL libraries.

Same on both counts. But I recall something about those USB eLicensor dongles that completely puts me off. CFX has such a reasonable and effortless DRM model that I really don't want to deal with anything more user-unfriendly.


I always hated dongles - but now I have tree different systems I use VSL on - two Windows 10 and one MacOS - and I can go from one to the next without any problems. I can have as many copies as I desire! So I hate dongles a little less lately...


Yamaha C3M - Kawai Novus - VSL CFX & Steinway D - Garritan CFX - Pianoteq Pro - American Concert D - Ravenscroft 275
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Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Erard] #2870532
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Originally Posted by Erard
Piano: VSL CFX and Steinway D - with a slight preference for the CFX at the moment.
I have many sampled piano and Pianoteq (the Steingraeber is not bad at all), but these two leave all the other ones in the dust IMO.


Erard, do you also have C. Bechstein Digital Grand for comparison? I do not see this library mentioned much, and I think it is absolutely fantastic. Needs a powerful computer though. In terms of sampled pianos, I can only compare it to Garritan CFX light, and Embertone Walker, and I prefer it over those.

Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Groove On] #2870542
07/19/19 06:45 AM
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I only have 2:
Pianoteq (Steinway D) and Garritan CFX.

Imho, pianoteq feels more difficult to control.


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Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Granyala] #2870544
07/19/19 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Granyala
Imho, pianoteq feels more difficult to control.


You could try lowering the value of the dynamics slider. I recently discovered this, and it has major impact on how easy it is to achieve evenness of tone.


Roland FP-30, Roland E-28, Pianoteq 6.5 (Bechstein DG, Grotrian, Steinway D, K2)
Re: Your Top VSTs [Re: Granyala] #2870546
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Originally Posted by Granyala
I only have 2:
Pianoteq (Steinway D) and Garritan CFX.

Imho, pianoteq feels more difficult to control.

I think that's the first I have ever seen this - a modelling VST more difficult to control than a sampled one...

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