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Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. #2870236
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I recently posted a thread about how I was playing a jazzy Christmas tune and was slower than I'd realized and halted more than I realized that I was. (when I saw a recording of myself.)

I realized that I was just trying to do things beyond my current ability so I started back with some lessons (video and PDFS) and the basics; hand position, arm weight, note recognition, and chords and arpeggios (so far lesson 1)

The lessons follow a plan and that's also beneficial because I have a "practice plan" automatically. I have goals.

So I purchased some Carolyn Miller recital and song books for "early elementary" level through "late elementary early intermediate" level so that I'd have some tunes to work on rather than things that are too difficult for me and thus breed frustration.

I tried "Rolling River" this morning and have found that that's the level that I'm at...I'm an elementary level player and guess what?

I'm happy about it!

Now instead of being frustrated, I can play a piece that's within my capabilities and still sounds like music.

For anyone who doesn't know what that tune is here is a video (and I'd recommend her books to anyone, they are full of interesting a fun pieces.


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Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: PianoWVBob] #2870240
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Well done. Nothing is more satisfying in nailing a piece both technically and musically! Thank you for sharing your journey, being humble and it sounds like you are purely enjoying the journey. It is something we forget that it aren’t all about achieving, as is the case for us adult beginners.


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Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: Pianoperformance] #2870241
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Originally Posted by Pianoperformance
Well done. Nothing is more satisfying in nailing a piece both technically and musically! Thank you for sharing your journey, being humble and it sounds like you are purely enjoying the journey. It is something we forget that it aren’t all about achieving, as is the case for us adult beginners.

Thank you.

My problem is that I've played guitar for 30 years so I guess unconsciously I saw myself as doing better than I really was and I picked pieces accordingly...that really bred frustration.

I can't wait to get home after work and practice now! I have clearly outlined goals, I have pieces that are within my capabilities and so I now have something I can play for my family (when I get it down enough)

That's a good feeling. smile

Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: PianoWVBob] #2870280
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Congratulations, and yes, that piece is cool - as you say, real music - how did you find her?


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Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: jotur] #2870287
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Originally Posted by jotur
Congratulations, and yes, that piece is cool - as you say, real music - how did you find her?

I just stumbled onto her. I was watching a video of someone playing a nice piece and in the comments section of the video someone said "Carolyn Miller always has good arrangements and catchy tunes" and so I looked her up and saw that that was true. I got on Amazon and ordered about 6 of her books and so I have a lot of good material to keep me busy for a while.

One of these days after I have polished that piece I'm going to try and record it and post it here. That will be a very big step for me.

Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: PianoWVBob] #2870288
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You might find this video interesting.




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Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: John305] #2870291
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Originally Posted by John305
You might find this video interesting.




Yes..that was interesting!

I'm more of the camp who just wants to play pretty well and not strive to be a real virtuoso.

Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: PianoWVBob] #2870335
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I think most of us are in that camp. I think it’s good to know up front that it will take quite a while to become a decent piano player, that way you can have realistic expectations. I think a large part of the frustration for people who are in the beginning of learning to play piano is having unrealistic expectations as to how long it will take and how much work is involved. If you know these things up front then it’s easier to focus more on the journey than the destination and will allow for more enjoyment along the way.


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Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: PianoWVBob] #2870445
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Originally Posted by PianoWVBob
Originally Posted by jotur
Congratulations, and yes, that piece is cool - as you say, real music - how did you find her?

I just stumbled onto her. I was watching a video of someone playing a nice piece and in the comments section of the video someone said "Carolyn Miller always has good arrangements and catchy tunes" and so I looked her up and saw that that was true. I got on Amazon and ordered about 6 of her books and so I have a lot of good material to keep me busy for a while.

One of these days after I have polished that piece I'm going to try and record it and post it here. That will be a very big step for me.


I love it when that happend smile


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Re: Well...I found out what level I'm at and I'm happy about it. [Re: John305] #2870452
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Originally Posted by John305
You might find this video interesting.



It's not often I agree completely with a YT video, but with this one, I'm in total agreement. She tells it straight. (Just like me thumb).

It's amusing how some people - even after watching the video - are still deluding themselves in their comments below it.....


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Originally Posted by bennevis
Originally Posted by John305
You might find this video interesting.



It's not often I agree completely with a YT video, but with this one, I'm in total agreement. She tells it straight. (Just like me thumb).

It's amusing how some people - even after watching the video - are still deluding themselves in their comments below it.....


She usually pulls no punches and tells it like she sees it. I like that aspect.


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I think real expertise takes the better part of 2 decades. This is a good reason to start around age 3.

But that doesn't mean you won't be pretty good before then. At 8-10 years most will be able to play Chopin Ballades and stuff like that just not cleanly. It takes another 5-10 years to mature.

Why so long? Partly because classical piano presents 100s of neuro-muscular complex tasks. It takes professional athletes anywhere between 1000-10000 repetitions to learn a new move. And pianists are like athletes in grooving new moves. Most of it occurs in slow motion. S-L-O-W. This is why it takes 1000s of hours to learn piano.


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