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Re: Kawai announces CN29 and CN39 digital pianos
Kawai James #2856735 06/08/19 05:17 PM
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Its a nice action but the CA78, Ca98 have the GFII action which is really nice. Also the CA series uses wooden keys while the CN series uses plastic keys.


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Kawai James #2856757 06/08/19 07:43 PM
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Regarding the actions, the spec sheets and “good/better/best” marketing don’t really belong in this discussion.

RH3 and GF2 don’t feel the same. To me, they feel so markedly different that if you told me it was made by two different manufacturers, I’d probably believe you.

Chances are, if you like the springy rebound of the RH3, you’ll dislike the quiet sponginess of GF2. And vice versa. Totally different animals.


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Re: Kawai announces CN29 and CN39 digital pianos
Kawai James #2856764 06/08/19 08:13 PM
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Hopefully I will be able to check out both and compare. I was going to check out a CA48 on Craigslist but it went pretty quick. I like some of the features listed for the CN39 that the CA48 doesn't have like Bluetooth audio and line in/out. You have to jump up to the CA58 to get those and it's a $1,000 more than the CA48. Regardless I will be saving my pennies for a good long while for an upgrade.

Re: Kawai announces CN29 and CN39 digital pianos
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Hello Kougeru,

Regarding your comment:

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Can the OLED be turned off while playing? Completely off. The problem with OLED is that they ALWAYS get burn-in. It's unavoidable. It's in their nature. It's just a question of when, but static images greatly increase the odds of getting burn-in sooner. Being able to completely turn off the display when playing would reduce the risk of burn-in to the point of non-issue.


Yes, you're correct. Burn-in can be an issue with OLED displays. For this reason, the CN29/CN39 feature an "Auto Screen Off" function which is set to 5 minutes by default, with options for 15 secs. or 30 mins.

Here is the relevant explanation from the owner's manual:
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Kawai James #2857205 06/10/19 10:32 AM
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Looks nice! My local arts center is planning on replacing a rather unstable old Wurlitzer console piano with one of these. If they haven't gotten it yet, I'll suggest the CN29 instead of the CN27!


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Kawai James #2857876 06/12/19 04:52 PM
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Kawai James - is there a Kawai distributor in Tucson, AZ? I visit my daughter there often and I've just about persuaded her to let me put a DP in her home so I can practice/play when I'm there.


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Originally Posted by FormerlyFlute
Kawai James - is there a Kawai distributor in Tucson, AZ? I visit my daughter there often and I've just about persuaded her to let me put a DP in her home so I can practice/play when I'm there.


Hello FormerlyFlute,

I just checked the dealer locator on the KawaiUS.com website, which lists "AZ Piano", based in Phoenix:

http://www.azpiano.com/

I'll ask my colleagues in the US if there are any alternative stores closer to Tuscon.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Kawai announces CN29 and CN39 digital pianos
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Shameless thread bump for Tony's excellent review of the CN29:



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Kawai James #2864593 07/01/19 04:54 AM
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Wow. I’m impressed at what your getting for that price point.


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Kawai James #2864606 07/01/19 05:52 AM
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Very nice playing from Tony. I have to say, the "SK ConcertGrand" sound is very nice but I love the K60 upright sound too. It has so much character and "bass" power!

To me there is one thing that those digital piano manufacturers (Kawai, Yamaha and Roland too) could improve very much: the orchestra strings sound... It's very digital and cheap to my ears and it's not much different from that of my old Roland XP-50 synth of 90s. I know that they focus on the piano sounds (being a digital piano!), but nevertheless, after 25 years from that synth, I took it for granted that now we would've had a much more realistic orchestra strings sound...

Now I'm waiting a CN39 review too from Tony. His videos are always nice to see and to listen to. smile

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Wow. I am really impressed with Tony's playing. He is playing 10x as much as others do in piano reviews! thumb


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Kawai James #2869010 07/13/19 03:12 PM
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Does anyone know when these will be available in the US? They only seem to be available in Europe right now. Very interested in trying one out.

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Tony is good player , I love the playing in mp7 se of the shiguru kawai , really amazing


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Kawai James #2869090 07/13/19 09:37 PM
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They look very interesting, but a little off-topic: why don't these demo videos feature players playing classical repertoire? It always seems to be bluesy, or boogie-woogie or free improvisations etc. Maybe they don't want a lot of amateur critics picking their playing apart? *shrug* It'd be helpful though.

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Kawai James #2869236 07/14/19 12:43 PM
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In the official videos of the CN29 and CN39 you can listen to some classical pieces.

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Maybe most of the "piano store guys" can't really play any classical(?)

There's a woman playing classical pieces on the Polish "muzykujkropkacom" YouTube channel. If the video title says "classical" or "Noemi" then there's some classical.

(They have digital piano and keyboard demos.)

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Kawai James #2869267 07/14/19 02:19 PM
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Thanks to both of the above commenters. I'll just make clear that I'm not singling out Kawai or the videos here but rather most of the demo videos I've seen on YT for whatever make.

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Kawai James #2869296 07/14/19 04:39 PM
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I think pure classical music doesn't sell much as pop/jazz/blues/rock/ecc... So they do what the potential customers want more.

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Well done - now show us the ES9 and VPC2 please smile
I wouldn't be surprised if the ES9 isn't a portable version of the CN39. Same keyboard, hardware and software, but 2 speakers instead of 4.

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Originally Posted by Steve.L
Originally Posted by Morten Olsson
Well done - now show us the ES9 and VPC2 please smile
I wouldn't be surprised if the ES9 isn't a portable version of the CN39. Same keyboard, hardware and software, but 2 speakers instead of 4.

Actually, the ES8 uses the HI-XL engine which is better (longer samples) than the PHI used in the CN27/37/29/39 series, and it already has the SK-5 piano samples that they introduced only now in the CN39.

So, I guess in Kawai they don't think yet to make an ES9, unless the competition has a better product in the same price range...

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