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... Apparently, there is already a donation button. I just joined Piano World yesterday, so I need to go looking for it.
The location of the DONATE button is a problem, also. If you want donations don't put the DONATE button in a very inconspicuous location. Put it on the frontpage with a HUGE icon and keep reminding non-donators that their donations help keep the forum operating. I would also encourage "automatic" donations similar to public television donation options. In other words, start actively seeking donations and see what happens.
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It would also be helpful to accept credit cards. I don't have a PayPal account and don't want one.
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Just seeing these news after having recently signed up on this forum. I think it is unfortunate as I can see it making the forum less and less active, which will both discourage new members from signing up, as well as make current users leave. Still, I understand that the site needs funding to stay up.
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I'm a genius. I found the perfect solution.
Frank should make the donation voluntary. Everyone can come in the forum and participate, if they feel Pianoworld is worth something, they will make a donation.
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I'm a genius. I found the perfect solution.
Frank should make the donation voluntary. Everyone can come in the forum and participate, if they feel Pianoworld is worth something, they will make a donation.
Amazing but this is the formula Frank has used for 20 years, but it is no longer working. If enough chipped in, we wouldn’t be having this conversation
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I'm a genius. I found the perfect solution.
Frank should make the donation voluntary. Everyone can come in the forum and participate, if they feel Pianoworld is worth something, they will make a donation.
Amazing but this is the formula Frank has used for 20 years, but it is no longer working. If enough chipped in, we wouldn’t be having this conversation Did I mention that if you want donations you need to ask for them ?
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I'm a genius. I found the perfect solution.
Frank should make the donation voluntary. Everyone can come in the forum and participate, if they feel Pianoworld is worth something, they will make a donation.
Amazing but this is the formula Frank has used for 20 years, but it is no longer working. If enough chipped in, we wouldn’t be having this conversation Did I mention that if you want donations you need to ask for them ? Did I mention Frank has posted ‘this forum is not free’ visibly on every forum?
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[.. Did I mention that if you want donations you need to ask for them ?
Did I mention Frank has posted ‘this forum is not free’ visibly on every forum? [/quote] If it is "visibly" posted on every forum, it's not showing up on my computer (browsing with Google Chrome). The statement does ring a bell, but I am not seeing it now on any of the Forums. Moreover, if you go to the "Piano World Home Page," there is a welcoming banner that says: "Join Our Piano Forums - Free!" That will need to be edited, I think. Regards,
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[.. Did I mention that if you want donations you need to ask for them ?
Did I mention Frank has posted ‘this forum is not free’ visibly on every forum? If it is "visibly" posted on every forum, it's not showing up on my computer (browsing with Google Chrome). The statement does ring a bell, but I am not seeing it now on any of the Forums. Moreover, if you go to the "Piano World Home Page," there is a welcoming banner that says: "Join Our Piano Forums - Free!" That will need to be edited, I think. Regards, [/quote] I use Firefox and do NOT see them anywhere either. I too only see the "Join Our Piano forums-Free!"
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[.. Did I mention that if you want donations you need to ask for them ?
Did I mention Frank has posted ‘this forum is not free’ visibly on every forum? If it is "visibly" posted on every forum, it's not showing up on my computer (browsing with Google Chrome). The statement does ring a bell, but I am not seeing it now on any of the Forums. Moreover, if you go to the "Piano World Home Page," there is a welcoming banner that says: "Join Our Piano Forums - Free!" That will need to be edited, I think. Regards, I use Firefox and do NOT see them anywhere either. I too only see the "Join Our Piano forums-Free!"[/quote] Same here, I didn't even realize that was a thing! Now I feel I should go donate, but I'll wait to see how things are going to change since it appears it will happen fairly quickly now. I'd hate to see this forum die!
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It says free at the top of this page too. Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free) And then at the very bottom of this page, it says, Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated! Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you. Perhaps put the donation request at the top too, or in a more visible location.
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[.. Did I mention that if you want donations you need to ask for them ?
Did I mention Frank has posted ‘this forum is not free’ visibly on every forum? If it is "visibly" posted on every forum, it's not showing up on my computer (browsing with Google Chrome). The statement does ring a bell, but I am not seeing it now on any of the Forums. Moreover, if you go to the "Piano World Home Page," there is a welcoming banner that says: "Join Our Piano Forums - Free!" That will need to be edited, I think. Regards, I use Firefox and do NOT see them anywhere either. I too only see the "Join Our Piano forums-Free!"[/quote]. It was on every forum for a long time..,, now removed and replaced with the new message from Frank about the possible membership change. Having the sticky thread did not seem to increase donations Frank has not posted a final decision or more details so the home page does not need to change. They are still ‘free’.
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So...everyone who can, and frequents the forums and who feels you get a lot out of it.. go ahead and donate now!! Subscription Link
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Much as I hate to sound a pessimistic note, I'm thinking that we need a contingency plan. If these pages suddenly go dead, what should we do? Our dilemma will be that with few exceptions, we don't even know how to contact each other if the forums are not here. I personally was in the midst of a very productive discussion on the All About Jazz forums, when suddenly and without warning, the forums vanished. I really wanted to get back in touch with a person who was giving me a lot of help, but his forum name was generic. All I knew about him was that he was one heck of a good jazz pianist on the west coast. I had absolutely no way to identify him, much less contact him. I never even had a chance to properly thank him, which left me feeling bad. So I think we ought to have a plan. How about this: We all join the Reddit piano group, with the same forum name we have here, but add the letters PW to it, or something like that. I know, I know, I know, Reddit is not Piano World. But it's better than nothing. Ed (RiddlerPW)
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So...everyone who can, and frequents the forums and who feels you get a lot out of it.. go ahead and donate now!! Subscription LinkI don't have Paypal and I haven't used checks the last 20 years or so. I don't even know if I have any. Why can't we use debit cards?
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So I think we ought to have a plan.
How about this: We all join the Reddit piano group, with the same forum name we have here, but add the letters PW to it, or something like that.
I know, I know, I know, Reddit is not Piano World. But it's better than nothing.
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So, I'm way behind the times. Someone explain reddit to me, please. And if I join, how do I find the piano group? Yeah, there's lots of people here I'd like to keep up with. My bro Ed, for one Actually, just before I joined Frank closed a forum called The Coffee Room where you could talk about anything at all. It apparently got out of hand over politics (insert roll-eyes icon here). So many of those folks did in fact find another platform and started a new forum, which then also split, at least partly over politics. So it can be done. . .
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So...everyone who can, and frequents the forums and who feels you get a lot out of it.. go ahead and donate now!! Subscription LinkI don't have Paypal and I haven't used checks the last 20 years or so. I don't even know if I have any. Why can't we use debit cards? You don't personally have to have a paypal account - click on the use a cc under donations. Paypal will process the payment, but it uses a PW account. That doesn't help the folks who don't like paypal, but it's an option. As to using a debit card - I don't know how that works. I've worked for non-profits that have merchant accounts in order to take credit cards, and I've worked for one that uses a company called Stripe that processes cc's thru the non-profit's web site. Maybe something like that is an option. I vote for putting the Donation button at the top of the page instead of the bottom.
Cathy Perhaps "more music" is always the answer, no matter what the question might be! - Qwerty53
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So...everyone who can, and frequents the forums and who feels you get a lot out of it.. go ahead and donate now!! Subscription LinkI don't have Paypal and I haven't used checks the last 20 years or so. I don't even know if I have any. Why can't we use debit cards? You don't personally have to have a paypal account - click on the use a cc under donations. Paypal will process the payment, but it uses a PW account. That doesn't help the folks who don't like paypal, but it's an option. Did not work like that for me, it required me to either log in or create an account AND give my phone number which is where I quit the process. I understand that it costs money to arrange for paying directly with credit card, so this is probably the best option for Frank.
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Credit and debit cards both cost money to accept as a payment method. Debit cards are usually a flat fee per transaction and credit cards are a flat fee plus a percentage of the transaction amount.
I don't accept any cards at my theatre and that's one of the reasons why.
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Y Much as I hate to sound a pessimistic note, I'm thinking that we need a contingency plan. If these pages suddenly go dead, what should we do? Our dilemma will be that with few exceptions, we don't even know how to contact each other if the forums are not here. I personally was in the midst of a very productive discussion on the All About Jazz forums, when suddenly and without warning, the forums vanished. I really wanted to get back in touch with a person who was giving me a lot of help, but his forum name was generic. All I knew about him was that he was one heck of a good jazz pianist on the west coast. I had absolutely no way to identify him, much less contact him. I never even had a chance to properly thank him, which left me feeling bad. So I think we ought to have a plan. How about this: We all join the Reddit piano group, with the same forum name we have here, but add the letters PW to it, or something like that. I know, I know, I know, Reddit is not Piano World. But it's better than nothing. Ed (RiddlerPW) It’s been created. https://www.reddit.com/r/PianoAdultBeginnersI’m not a huge fan of Reddit’s format, and I am a subscriber here, but at least it’s there for backup.
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