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Estonia Concert Grand #2862993
06/26/19 01:31 PM
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Hello all!

We're long-time lurkers here reading so many interesting topics, and we're glad to finally join the forum! The timing is also good, since we'd never have expected to imagine ourselves owning, let alone rebuilding, a concert grand piano so soon!

For a bit of our background, we have a 17-year-old Yamaha C5 at home (just our age!), and we've been using it for the past 10 years of daily practicing. Recently we had the desire to have a better piano, and with the Yamaha being a pretty decent intrument we ended up replacing some action parts (Abel hammers and new knuckles) and treble strings. That was a huge improvement, but certainly not enough for us twin pianists.

We then became obsessed with finding, playing, even getting a look at any larger grands we run into. At the university's school of music where we study, it is a pure joy just to sneak into rehearsal rooms/concert halls and find a concert grand piano sitting in the corner! Last month we came home for the summer break, and got in touch with a former piano teacher in Thailand who repairs and sells used European pianos. Out of 3 Blüthners, an August Förster, and an Estonia he had, we chose the latter, mainly for its "voice", even though they all sound good (despite being equally out-of-tune and unregulated!).

Other than the (moderately acceptable) refinishing, the Estonia was all in original condition of circa 1973 Soviet-built standard, so a few things were looking apparently in need of repair; the rusted strings in particular. This led us to the idea of repainting the iron frame, since it's now or never for the strings to be completely taken out and replaced. The work wasn't short of difficult, so we're taking one step at a time, and thanks to the kind helps from the piano teacher and his skilled piano technician friends, we're progressing steadily, and safely! Being painters ourselves, we have all the ideas drafted for this restoration, so it won't be just technical improvements!

Here are some photos of the piano in its poor, humid storage room, and after arriving in its new home and hyper-cleaned (every accessible corners!):

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After:
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We'll be posting more pics of the restoration process as we progress!

Cheers!

SKs

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Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2863129
06/26/19 08:17 PM
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Good luck and keep us posted.


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Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2863146
06/26/19 10:15 PM
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There are "licked " pins of sides. A tuner used non professional hammer. It's metal of a (hammer) have soft material . It's great tragedy for a piano.

Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2863552
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Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2863604
06/28/19 12:26 PM
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Thanks for looking in and commenting!

@Maximillyan, we suspect the previous tuners used incorrect tuning hammer size on the pins, and then they were let to rot in the humid storage room along with the strings. We'd describe the piano as a red army grave site! And yes, we've seen pianos that are in much worse condition! eek

Some further background of the intrument:

This piano was built in Tallinn, Estonia, and the serial number 2256 indicates a year of ca. 1973. On the underside of the piano just under the keyboard, there is a handwriting in white with the letters Д.К. (D.K.), which likely refers to Dom Kultury, the Soviet-era Houses of Culture. Therefore, it is quite likely that this piano was from one of such places in Moscow Oblast.

Anyway, let's jump straight into the actual rebuilding process!

As you can see in the previous photos, the piano is in pretty good condition. The high-gloss polyester finish was redone in Bangkok, and it looks very good at a distance. A closer inspection, however, reveals some defects, like air bubbles and uneven clear coating in some areas. Being a northern european piano, the wood from very cold and dry baltic regions seems to be affected by the extreme contrast of very hot and humid climate of Thailand, especially in the storage room it has been sitting in for almost a year. This might explain the noticeably uneven reflection of the piano interior on the inside of the lid. The soundboard was in very decent shape despite the said condition, but it wasn't until after the piano arrived at our home for about week, when, surprisingly, we noticed an improvement in the tone and sound quality. This may be due to the fact that our tiny "concert hall" was built with only clerestorey windows, therefore the optimum humidity and temperature in the room provided a perfect spot for the piano to recover.

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Moving on to the especially worn-out interior. As with most old-generation european pianos, the tuning pins are smaller, and their wrecked appearances greatly spoiled the look of the piano. These will be replaced along with their wooden bushings. The cast-iron plate paintwork was original, and it certainly wasn't the best finish. There are dark brown stains all over the areas around the tuning pins, which strangely cannot be removed with even the strongest cleaning solutions. With the decision to completely restring the piano, it is the best idea to rebronze the iron plate as well.

Well, repainting a piano iron plate isn't so much of a simple task. We needed to disassemble the piano almost entirely....and that is...uh...quite a lot of work! But before we could think twice, here we are....

Our teacher helping with removing the bass strings:

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Red Army comrades at work!

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Stripped bare of all strings and pins:

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This process of removing the strings and driving the old tuning pins out actually required so much effort and time, and we thought...this isn't what pianists are supposed to do!! Anyway, it was a great way to exercise, and we did lose some 20 lbs....wait... ha

Now, it was time to lift the iron plate off the piano. We had to unscrew the legs and put the piano down on the floor in order to make room and ease up the process. With a weight of around half a ton, we needed help from a team of builders who were renovating our house:

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Note the decorative piano strings wreaths on the wall!!

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The original wood bushings were very old, some even had rust streaking down the holes, and a few others were badly damaged while the tuning pins were being removed. We noticed that the rust caused tuning problems back when we tuned the piano when it arrived, but well...how much rust can you have in a piano? crazy

Here they are being hammered off the plate:

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We must say that Estonia's iron plate is definitely one of the most beautiful designs! Here is how it looks after extensive degreasing and cleaning:

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Time to put it back in the piano....let's waste all the effort getting it out!! grin

More works on the plate coming!

SKs

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Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2863609
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Originally Posted by malkin
Enjoy your new (to you) piano!

Thanks! It is indeed a new old piano that is going to be even newer and older! Sounds confusing enough? Haha smile

Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2863679
06/28/19 04:16 PM
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I'll watch with interest as you continue this rebuild! The plate is so delicate looking! I assume you're replacing the pin block as well and maybe reshaping the capo d'astro bar if needed.


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Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2863715
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Best wishes for the rebuild.One day you will send us a
recording made on this piano !

Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: Lady Bird] #2863744
06/28/19 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Best wishes for the rebuild.One day you will send us a
recording made on this piano !


I second that motion.


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Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2864231
06/30/19 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by AaronSF
I'll watch with interest as you continue this rebuild! The plate is so delicate looking! I assume you're replacing the pin block as well and maybe reshaping the capo d'astro bar if needed.

The original pin block is still in very good shape, so we won't be replacing it. As for the capo d'astro reshaping, we have never been aware of the process! Intrigued, we asked our technician about it, and he indeed advised us to file the contact string grooves, as they could sometimes create noises. Thanks for the suggestion!

Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Best wishes for the rebuild.


Thank you! Please wish us more time and patience!

Originally Posted by NobleHouse
Originally Posted by Lady Bird
One day you will send us a
recording made on this piano !


I second that motion.


Absolutely! Although for the post-restoration version, it's gonna depend on whether or not we will be able to finish the piano this year, since we have only less than 2 months to go before returning to the U.S. to continue our studies. We DID record some excerpts back when we tried out the piano for the first time, so just to give an idea of how the piano attracted our attention, here is a link to our youtube video:

https://youtu.be/kd1zANUb2q4

Please excuse the poor quality of both the video and, more importantly, the playing!! Note: there are two people playing in the video, and the second one starts at 3:00....there's not much telling as to who's who!

Anyway, does anyone else think about the sound resembling a bit of a New York Steinway D? No? How about a really bad one? No?..... crazy

Well, let's continue with some further progress on the iron plate! One thing to mention: for those of you who might be thinking we are working way too fast...actually, what we are posting is from about a month up to a week ago, therefore this isn't the current stage we are at!

Anyway, let's continue....

Since we'd already got the plate on the floor and cleaned, the next step was to prepare it for rebronzing. Please keep in mind that we are just ordinary pianists, and nowhere near amateur piano technicians, and this is the first time we would ever experiment painting anything inside a piano. Nevertheless, besides being keen painters ourselves, we have been building ship models since a very young age, therefore we are very familiar with high precision and quality works; only this one is on a much larger scale.

After degreasing the entire plate, we started checking for surface defects and evaluate the extent of sanding and filling works. We then began sanding with 320 grit wet sandpaper, and that was already a good smooth surface. Here is a picture of the sanding in-progress:

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What we needed to do was filling all the potholes, paint chipping, and other damaged areas with modeling putty. This particularly big chipping was caused by the huge Estonia music rack base crashing down onto the plate, and it's one of the few places where we needed to use epoxy putty for strength.

Before:

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This picture shows the damage caused by the removal of the bass strings around the hitch pins. These are pretty shallow, so we used green modeling putty.

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Everything was then sanded to a smooth mess, so we cleaned it again in preparation for a coat of white primer. We finished off with 800 and 1000 grit sanding, and, of course clean it once more. It's nothing more than sand, clean, sand, clean, sand, clean, sand, clean, sand....and clean! cursing

But before we could move on, we're stuck with the 53 agraffe pins, which all had some extent of oxidation:

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Here's how they look after being individually sanded with 320 grit sandpaper up to 1000 grit, then finished with Brasso metal polish:

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There are still some minor scratches and oxidations left in some areas, but the tight working space didn't really allow any further refinements. Nevertheless, we'll try polishing them once more before restringing the piano.

For the umpteenth time, we cleaned and degreased the whole plate free of the oily Brasso and hand stains in preparation for the primer. Here is how it looked after one coat:

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The primer barely covered the whole plate, but still enough to show all the remaining rough spots, and give a good surface for the final sanding. Then we went back to sanding and cleaning, and the plate was ready for rebronzing!

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Stay tuned for more progress!

SKs

Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2864263
06/30/19 01:47 PM
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This is really fun to watch the progress.


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Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2864357
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Originally Posted by LovingPianos
As for the capo d'astro reshaping, we have never been aware of the process! Intrigued, we asked our technician about it, and he indeed advised us to file the contact string grooves, as they could sometimes create noises.



You should check in with Ed McMorrow here on the forum regarding this point. He is very adamant that a correct "V"profile must be observed when reshaping the capo d'astro - not just removing grooves. He believes it is responsible for a lot of unpleasant sounds in pianos - even new ones. You really want to get that sorted now rather than have to live with having done it improperly. No disrespect to your mentor in this project, but he may not be up to speed on this particular issue - even if he does advocate reshaping/resurfacing. What Ed has said on this makes total sense to me.

Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: ando] #2864791
07/01/19 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ando


You should check in with Ed McMorrow here on the forum regarding this point. He is very adamant that a correct "V"profile must be observed when reshaping the capo d'astro - not just removing grooves. He believes it is responsible for a lot of unpleasant sounds in pianos - even new ones. You really want to get that sorted now rather than have to live with having done it improperly. No disrespect to your mentor in this project, but he may not be up to speed on this particular issue - even if he does advocate reshaping/resurfacing. What Ed has said on this makes total sense to me.


Thanks for the advice! We just checked the capo d'astro, and there seems to be almost no groove at all! We'll recheck again and consult with Mr. Ed on here when we get to that part.

As for the progress, here comes the most satisfying of all!

After cleaning the whole plate again, we masked the agraffe pins with masking tape:

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As for the hitch pins, we tried masking them with various methods, including tapes, straws, and even painting white latex glue on them. The latter actually worked pretty well for covering the pins, but removing it afterwards was not at all what we imagined! The glue on a whole section of hitch pins had to be painstakingly removed with cutter knife and sandpaper...so obviously this was the worst idea. We decided not to cover the pins, and scrape them off later, as this turned out to be much easier.

For the rebronzing, we found several methods that people use, including gilding powder, airbrushing, etc., but our paint technician, who specializes in furniture finishing, recommended the fast-drying rattle can paints. We then searched for various golden spray paints, and came across Rustoleum Specialty Metallic spray. We tested it on a small area, and it's possibly the best gold paint we've ever used! It also looked very close, if not the perfect match, to the original paint, but with an even better shine! We decided to use just the gold color, and no clear coat, to keep the brilliant shine of the paint. The spraying process was pretty simple, so without thinking, we started applying the first coat from the tail up, before realizing the room was turning foggy with the haze and dust from the spray! So it was back to square one after our mother ordered the whole room cleaned (!) This time we set up a spraying "tent" around the iron plate:

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The two of us entered the tent, restarted the process with one of us spraying while the other use a vacuum cleaner to suck as much dust as possible, and came out for air every now and then (even with the dust masks). Here are some pictures of the process:

Before:

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And here are pictures of the fully cured paint in the morning daylight:

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Here is the before and after comparison of the heaviest damage:

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We used a total of 2.5 cans finishing roughly 3 coats. We're pretty happy with the result, and it's quite a drastic improvement for such a significant part of the piano!

There's just a few more things to post before we catch up with the current progress, but we'll try to keep the updates coming!

SKs

Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2864828
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What a labor of love! It looks like you're having fun while doing good work. Keep the posts coming.


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Wow! That plate is so pretty now!!


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Re: Estonia Concert Grand [Re: LovingPianos] #2866340
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Hello guys!

Thanks for all the compliments! We've been very busy with some huge works on the piano, but we're just going to follow the timeline here for continuity's sake. So here's another old yet important progress, this time involving the Estonia case!

This is a picture of how the piano looked lying on the floor, before cleaning:

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After:

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As you can see, the soundboard is still in excellent condition, and the piano plays well, good sound, comes with a high-quality bench, free shipping.....wait...who's selling what? crazy

Moving onto the actual work....as in the previous photos, the interior rim of the case is the same high-gloss black as the exterior, and this seems a bit rare for a European piano. But a 9 ft Estonia IS a weird Steinway D, is it not? confused

Although it looks just fine, we wanted an upgrade! As you all know, the rims are either black or wooden color, which is in fact wood veneer integrated into the laminated rim. Most of the Yamaha, Hamburg Steinway, Fazioli, etc., etc. pianos have these veneered rims, and Estonia also has them in their newer models (perhaps late 1990s onwards?) as well. And we thought we should put one ourselves! Thanks to our furniture-designer (actually interior designer) grandmother, we didn't have to look further than a veneer company she knew that sells a vast variety of veneer woods...unfortunately without discounts!! To make a perfect match for the black piano, we chose a darker-tone walnut burl veneer. There was one downside, however; all of their veneers aren't any longer than 50-60 cm, so we would need to arrange them on the entire rim length. Luckily, the wood burl pattern is joinable, so it wouldn't be too hard with the final finishing to blend in the edges.

We sanded (or basically destroyed) the inside rim surface with the roughest sandpaper we had, in preparation for the veneer application. We seeked help from a furniture technician, but in the end we did the whole thing with his guidance (he was responsible for the sole task of applying the rubber glue, period). The works include measuring the veneer sections, cutting to a close fit, then test-fitting, then trimming to the correct size. All of the 6 veneer sections covering a length of around 6 meters needed numerous trimming and test-fitting. The fit has to be perfect, since the rubber glue won't compromise for the tiniest movement once attached. Thus, it took many hours just to cut and test-fit, but we managed to get it done that day. We thought it's an excellent addition to the plain black exterior with a bit of a luxurious touch!

Here's how the rim looked like earlier:

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A test-fit of the veneer sheets!

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Applying glue on both the veneer sheet and the sanded surface of the rim:

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Attaching the perfectly-cut veneer sheets. Precision is key here...

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We taped the top of the rim to protect it from possible damages:

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And the final reveal!

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And YOU wait til this thing gets a proper lacquer finish!

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That's going to be some piano when it is finished. Keep on posting the photos, this is more fun than going to the movies.


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That looks quite magnificent actually - completely changes the "grandness" of this grand! I hope it won't degrade over time though and become a problem for you (like with buzzing or detaching over time). Also, how did you manage to get a neat line between the veneer and the black rim - as well as strengthen that join? I have to say, everything is looking spectacular.

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