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For me, it is very fascinating that I play pieces that were composed as early as the 1700ths. Just the thought that almost 300 years ago, a man dressed in antique clothes and with a curly wig sat at his pianoforte or harpsichord, using a feather pen to write the notes that I now read from my i-pad to play on my digital piano. The composer probably never imagined that 300 years later adults older than 50 would study his children's pieces with such intensity! But somehow we are connected, the composer and me. I think the oldest piece I have ever played is Bach's Minuet in G major from 1725, but it is hard to be sure. What is the oldest piece you all have played, as far as you know? Any really old beginner's piece you would recommend?
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Can’t help you with the repertoire but I have the same feeling when I play my 1903 piano. I would love to have a piano party with everyone who owned it to hear their piano stories. Music is truly eternal. Someone 300 years from now will have the same struggles learning to play that we do now. .... or maybe not the same 😮
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Johann Kuhnau was Bach's predecessor at Leipzig, so his works would be older.
Works from the Fitzwilliam Virginal book are probably older, like Henry Purcell's music.
And Francois Couperin was about 20 years older than Bach, but after 300 years, who's counting?
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This is not music for the piano but I've played pieces by Luys Milán, a Spanish composer, on the classical guitar. His work dates from the 1500s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_de_Milán
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Totally get you on this! I tend to romanticise history too. That’s how classical music interested me in the first place. Other than, of course, Für Elise My oldest would be Minuet in A Minor, by Johann Kreiger (1651-1735). This link says it was published in 1697. It’s a beautiful, little piece. A bit melancholic. Learnt it very recently, and I’ve been playing it non-stop since. Though in my own clumsy way, haha. Edit: You got me curious enough to google for the oldest surviving keyboard music. Also, you can try something by Jean-Baptiste Lully (1632-1687).
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You could try the keyboard music of the English virginalists. Probably the most well known book being the Fitzwilliam virginal book. Mid 1500's and onwards. I think Gould was fond of it.
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I think the oldest piece I have ever played is Bach's Minuet in G major from 1725, but it is hard to be sure. What is the oldest piece you all have played, as far as you know? Any really old beginner's piece you would recommend? I played a few keyboard pieces by England's greatest composer, Henry Purcell (1659-1695), when I was a student - from Denes Agay's volume of Easy Classics to Moderns, like this simple but sad minuet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhiZpbsjNeYPurcell's music is amazingly overtly emotional, surpassing Bach and Handel in this respect. Just listen to his most famous aria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H--Z9UzQYEBut I expect most people only know this music by him (and probably don't know who its composer is ) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDftL6sfVI0- which is a hymn adapted from the 'Alleluia' from one of his verse anthems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDyYvbkNzEA
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Totally get you on this! I tend to romanticise history too. That’s how classical music interested me in the first place. Other than, of course, Für Elise My oldest would be Minuet in A Minor, by Johann Kreiger (1651-1735). This link says it was published in 1697. It’s a beautiful, little piece. A bit melancholic. Learnt it very recently, and I’ve been playing it non-stop since. Though in my own clumsy way, haha. Edit: You got me curious enough to google for the oldest surviving keyboard music. Also, you can try something by Jean-Baptiste Lully (1632-1687). Totally get you on this! I tend to romanticise history too. That’s how classical music interested me in the first place. Other than, of course, Für Elise My oldest would be Minuet in A Minor, by Johann Kreiger (1651-1735). This link says it was published in 1697. It’s a beautiful, little piece. A bit melancholic. Learnt it very recently, and I’ve been playing it non-stop since. Though in my own clumsy way, haha. Edit: You got me curious enough to google for the oldest surviving keyboard music. Also, you can try something by Jean-Baptiste Lully (1632-1687). Hey, I play that little Minuet by Krieger! My teacher pulled it out of some Russian book of piano repertoire. Thanks for posting that link.
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I played a few keyboard pieces by England's greatest composer, Henry Purcell (1659-1695), when I was a student - from Denes Agay's volume of Easy Classics to Moderns, like this simple but sad minuet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhiZpbsjNeYI have this exact one in a different book I've got. I like it a lot! Plus, it's in my favourite key (as of now). Totally get you on this! I tend to romanticise history too. That’s how classical music interested me in the first place. Other than, of course, Für Elise My oldest would be Minuet in A Minor, by Johann Kreiger (1651-1735). This link says it was published in 1697. It’s a beautiful, little piece. A bit melancholic. Learnt it very recently, and I’ve been playing it non-stop since. Though in my own clumsy way, haha. Edit: You got me curious enough to google for the oldest surviving keyboard music. Also, you can try something by Jean-Baptiste Lully (1632-1687). Hey, I play that little Minuet by Krieger! My teacher pulled it out of some Russian book of piano repertoire. Thanks for posting that link. The video in that link plays it so beautifully! I think I'll have to re-learn this one
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Pythagoras, 6th century BC, studied the frequency ratio of different pitch and from that came the modern music scale.
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I have been studying some of the early keyboard compositions,essentially organ, and played pieces from the manuscripts of the Buxheim organ book around 1470. Other than that for my pleasure I often play Sweelinck fantasies and toccatas, Frescobaldi keyboard compositions like his capriccios - early 17th century, also Byrd, Bull pavanes, galliards and grounds, Purcell suites, .... There are a lof of compositions for keyboard in the 17th century that are never/rarely played like Froberger pieces or Samuel Scheidt. Also plenty of compositions for harpsichord by Louis Couperin, D' anglebert, Jacquet de la Guerre which can be played on the piano.
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My teacher pulled it out of some Russian book of piano repertoire. It wasn't Nikolaev, was it?
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My teacher pulled it out of some Russian book of piano repertoire. It wasn't Nikolaev, was it? Hard to say, I can’t read the writing. I should have taken a picture of the cover. I can ask at my next lesson.
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My teacher pulled it out of some Russian book of piano repertoire. It wasn't Nikolaev, was it? Hard to say, I can’t read the writing. I should have taken a picture of the cover. I can ask at my next lesson. I'm sure she will know Nikolaev by name. She herself probably first learned piano as a child from Nikolaev.
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My oldest would be Minuet in A Minor, by Johann Kreiger (1651-1735). This link says it was published in 1697. It’s a beautiful, little piece. A bit melancholic. It is already on my list of pieces I plan to play! Now I am looking forward to it so much more.
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Hey, I play that little Minuet by Krieger! My teacher pulled it out of some Russian book of piano repertoire. It wasn't Nikolaev, was it? It is not in Nikolaev's books 1A, 1B and 2.
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You could try the keyboard music of the English virginalists. Probably the most well known book being the Fitzwilliam virginal book. Mid 1500's and onwards. I think Gould was fond of it. Too difficult for me!
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but after 300 years, who's counting? I do! Any beginner's piece you can recommend?
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Pythagoras, 6th century BC, studied the frequency ratio of different pitch and from that came the modern music scale. Yeah, I kind of blame the Greek for giving us this strange system with the two and three black keys...
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I have been studying some of the early keyboard compositions,essentially organ, and played pieces from the manuscripts of the Buxheim organ book around 1470. Other than that for my pleasure I often play Sweelinck fantasies and toccatas, Frescobaldi keyboard compositions like his capriccios - early 17th century, also Byrd, Bull pavanes, galliards and grounds, Purcell suites, .... There are a lof of compositions for keyboard in the 17th century that are never/rarely played like Froberger pieces or Samuel Scheidt. Also plenty of compositions for harpsichord by Louis Couperin, D' anglebert, Jacquet de la Guerre which can be played on the piano. Sidokar, any beginner pieces you can recommend?
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