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Re: Testing Kawai nv10 and ca98
dtrvno #2860925 06/20/19 03:00 PM
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How can a person be kicked by a piano? I don’t get it.

Re: Testing Kawai nv10 and ca98
Tyrone Slothrop #2860941 06/20/19 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MrKaramba
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Your system of rating is flawed. Henle which is more trustworthy and known to have a hard grading system rates 25/2 as 7 "difficult" of their maximum of 9. The various exam systems rate it from the proficient level (grade 8) to diploma level. Rating it 3/10 is unsubstantiated and not well-founded.
If 25/2 is 7/9 so where we should put 10/4 or 10/2 or 25/10 and11? They should be far out of the scale ..

Polonaise op 53 is usually rated at 7.5

10/2 - Henle 8 of 9 (also, RCM licentiate level)
10/4 - Henle 8 of 9 (also, RCM licentiate level)
25/10 - Henle 9 of 9 (also, RCM associate diploma level)
25/11 - Henle 9 of 9 (also, RCM licentiate level)
53 - Henle 8 of 9 (also, RCM associate diploma level)


And that makes sense. But as written above, they have very strange rating. Just perhaps they may some treshold for certain combination like "chopin etude no less than 7", Beethoven Sonata no less than 8 etc.

Re: Testing Kawai nv10 and ca98
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Thanks so much for righting the train here, Tyrone!

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by MrKaramba
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Your system of rating is flawed. Henle which is more trustworthy and known to have a hard grading system rates 25/2 as 7 "difficult" of their maximum of 9. The various exam systems rate it from the proficient level (grade 8) to diploma level. Rating it 3/10 is unsubstantiated and not well-founded.
If 25/2 is 7/9 so where we should put 10/4 or 10/2 or 25/10 and11? They should be far out of the scale ..

Polonaise op 53 is usually rated at 7.5

10/2 - Henle 8 of 9 (also, RCM licentiate level)
10/4 - Henle 8 of 9 (also, RCM licentiate level)
25/10 - Henle 9 of 9 (also, RCM associate diploma level)
25/11 - Henle 9 of 9 (also, RCM licentiate level)
53 - Henle 8 of 9 (also, RCM associate diploma level)

Re: Testing Kawai nv10 and ca98
dtrvno #2861122 06/21/19 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dtrvno
Hi, today I tested Kawai pianos
Here is my notes
1 nv10
Lot of expectations but piano really disappointed. First of all sound is great, but touch itself is questionable. Problem when you touch it is kick you back strongly, and you fill kind of dribbling in fingers. It is very stressful. I could not play scales on that. Second problem with touch - it is not deep enough, I had two pianos and feel nv10 much shorter touch then other pianos.

2 ca98

Sound is great, touch is excellent. Only problem is black keys have different material then usual acoustic piano. It is not critical problem.

So, based on my analysis I will stay with CA98.


Any other opinions about nv10 touch?


Going from acoustic actions to digital or vice versa is bound to require adaptation of technique. I'd give yourself (forearm muscles) time to adjust.


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