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Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: Brendan] #2860659
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Been following Malofeev for quite a while. An extraordinary talent and am eager to hear him tomorrow.

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Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860755
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Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860789
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Go tinyking12345!

Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860803
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Some thoughts on what I was able to watch from the first session:

Broberg - solid, musical, and well-delivered. My only qualm was that the programming in general was lyrical until the Liszt and I would have liked more contrast in repertoire.

Smith - sort of middle of the road for me. Again, everyone is so solid, him included, but I didn't feel much of a connection to his performance.

George Harolino aka tinyking12345 - awesome! Another standout among the young players, and he totally delivered in the Beethoven. Both he and Malofeev are laureates of Matsuev's "Grand Piano" competition (aka Tchaikovsky junior). He's played here before and it shows.

Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860810
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For me the highlight of this morning's performance was Harliono's Beethoven. A few wrong notes but with that kind of vitality who cares. Broberg was good but not as rousing as Harliono I don't think, and I didn't care for his repertoire picks as much. I just hope he makes it to the next round because he has Medtner's 'Night Wind' on his second round list OMGOMG!

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Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860813
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George Harliono totally delivered in "Harmonies du sour," also. That etude gets poo-pooed around here for some reason: it's really difficult to pull off, interpretively, and the rolled chords are murder for small hands.

So, shall all of us who have encouraged tinyking12345 share in the success? 😆


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Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860851
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I used to think some pieces were so great I would never get tired of hearing them but the Appassionata is getting unbearable.

OTOH Malofeev's third movement is incredibly exciting at supersonic speed...I think the fastest I've heard. But if I remember correctly? it's marked Allegro ma non troppo so it could be argued he's not doing what Beethoven wrote.

Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860857
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Holy Winter Wind, Batman!

Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860858
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That Appassionata 3rd mvmt, my goodness...someone should've handed out a speeding ticket to Malofeev. Insanely gifted boy, but it's not a horse race, and as we could see, there was no way to speed up in the final presto. He completely slayed the Winter Wind Etude, his facilities at the keyboard are absolutely amazing.

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Yes this is not a horse race. But I think they might advance him. Though I don't care to hear him anymore.

Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: Hakki] #2860866
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Oh, I think that kind of playing will be too irresistible for the jury (and they might be right). 😆


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Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860899
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As the commentators said, I don't think it would have been possible to have two more different recitals if they tried. Malofeev brought the browdsword and Sara brought the scalpel. Each were stunning in their own ways, but Sara's attention to detail was incredible. Malofeev has the best technical facility **imaginable** but I sometimes wish he would try to create excitement in ways other than speed and fury.

We're clearly in the "matter of taste" stage of the competition. All of them are so high level that it really comes down to personal preference, and not a single competitior has had sub-par performance.

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My semifinal druthers list is Brobert, Daneshpour, Fujita, Harliono, Malofeev, Shishkin, and Yemelyanov. That's not hearing the last two in the first round. I like a few others, but feel less strongly at this point.


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Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: Brendan] #2860911
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Originally Posted by Brendan
As the commentators said, I don't think it would have been possible to have two more different recitals if they tried. Malofeev brought the browdsword and Sara brought the scalpel. Each were stunning in their own ways, but Sara's attention to detail was incredible. Malofeev has the best technical facility **imaginable** but I sometimes wish he would try to create excitement in ways other than speed and fury.
I think Malofeev should have at least played one piece other than the Bach that was not over the top virtuosic. For example, a less virtuosic Tchaikovsky than Dummkopf. I don't remember what he played in the China competition but I do remember that it was not stop virtuoso rep. OTOH I'm sure the choice of possible rep for these competitions has been endless discussed and dissected by his teachers and others who know far more than me what will have the best chance of giving him the best result.

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
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As the commentators said, I don't think it would have been possible to have two more different recitals if they tried. Malofeev brought the browdsword and Sara brought the scalpel. Each were stunning in their own ways, but Sara's attention to detail was incredible. Malofeev has the best technical facility **imaginable** but I sometimes wish he would try to create excitement in ways other than speed and fury.
I think Malofeev should have at least played one piece other than the Bach that was not over the top virtuosic. For example, a less virtuosic Tchaikovsky than Dummkopf. I don't remember what he played in the China competition but I do remember that it was not stop virtuoso rep. OTOH I'm sure the choice of possible rep for these competitions has been endless discussed and dissected by his teachers and others who know far more than me what will have the best chance of giving him the best result.




I agree on his rep choices. His strong point now is his technical facility, similar to George Li in the last competition. I'm sure that's Malofeev will get something, and quite possibly at least one of the top three prizes.

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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
I'm sure the choice of possible rep for these competitions has been endless discussed and dissected by his teachers and others who know far more than me what will have the best chance of giving him the best result.


In general, over-reliance on first impressions is lazy or just plain stupid.

However, first recitals create a certain buzz and momentum that can be unstoppable. (Reminds me of Alexei Sultanov's Cliburn win.)


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Nice to hear the G# minor P/F, it's one of my favorites from Book I.

Re: 16th Tchaikovsky Competition [Re: WhoDwaldi] #2860936
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George Li had a greater variety of strengths, to me, comparing to Malofeev. He played Beethoven op 111 with conviction, and his Campanella wasn't all about speed. Although Malofeev is prodigious like no other competitor, I'd prefer if he wasn't placed in the very top, based on some very worrying tendencies from his playing today. Then again, if this is the Olympics among piano competitions, it's a safe bet that he'll go far in this competition.

On a sidenote: after the previous Tchaik competition, he came with Gergiev/Mariinsky and various winners of the competition (including George Li) to Gergiev's festival in Mikkeli here in Finland. I was told that his encore, after some performance (with orchestra probably) was the entire first part of Rite of Spring...mad! He must've been 13 or so back then!

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Btw, someone went over the rep choices for the finals. Here you go:

23x Tchaik 1
3x Tchaik 2

1x Beethoven 4
1x Beethoven 5
1x Brahms 1
1x Brahms 2
1x Liszt 1
4x Prok 2
7x Prok 3
1x Rach 2
3x Rach 3
4x Rach Paganini



...so, overall Russian-heavy on the free concerto choice, but refreshing with few Rach 2-3s and nice that a few picked "that scoundrel Brahms", to quote Tchaikovsky...

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As expected, the last two have also been overall solid. I feel that the similarity is that they both started to relax into their programs somewhere after their sonatas. Nice playing from both, but some competitors were already confident from the first note.

Anyway, my guess:

Yemelvanov
Shishkin
Yashkin
Broberg
Fujita
Daneshpour
Malofeev
Harolino
Tarasevich-Nikolayev
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Melnikov
Yang? Either him or Ming Xie.

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