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Has anyone been to any large piano stores in western PA?
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I'm planning on driving to Pittsburgh and the surrounding areas to find a piano store or two that has reconditioned uprights that I can test out.

It's surprisingly hard to get any information online about what these places have to offer and at what prices. They always say "come into to see our inventory!" and "Call for prices!"

I don't want to drive 2 hours only to find that all that they have is one dusty out of tune upright that nobody would want or to find that everything that they have is out of my price range.

I've been looking at two stores so far, if you have any suggestions please comment with them.

1.) Modern Piano in Wexford PA. This is the closest place but not much info here.
https://www.mymodernpiano.com/

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2.) Trombino Piano. Their website doesn't even work. No information.

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3.) Valley Piano. Again...no online information available.
http://valleypiano.net/


I also saw this guy; Rick Jones and his website was MUCH more transparent about what they have and their prices for used are what I'm willing to pay.

What do you think of the uprights this guy has for $3000.00 or less?

https://rickjonespianos.com/


Has anyone been to these stores and can say that any of them or some other one nearby are worth driving two hours to check out uprights at $3,500 or less?

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Where are you driving from?

Unfortunately, Trombino's is closed. I know Modern Piano and they are very nice people. I would call them and ask what they have. I have not heard of Valley Piano, but it appears that they more or less specialize in used pianos, at least from their website.

I am on the other side of the state. My nearest location to you is King of Prussia. We always have a nice selection of reconditioned upright pianos but we may be a 4 hour drive for you, depending on where you are in PA.

I also know Rick Jones. He is a nice guy and I like him personally. His specialty is importing already used pianos from Asia and reselling them here. This has become increasingly expensive to do and the result is that he is selling 45 year old Yamaha U1 pianos in all original condition for the same price as some decent new pianos - or very nice used pianos.

I wish you good luck in your search. You have a great resource here at PW.


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Rich Galassini #2860758 06/20/19 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Where are you driving from?

North Central West Virginia; about 1 hour and 40 minutes to Pittsburgh. I'm 40 minutes below Morgantown WV.

Unfortunately, Trombino's is closed. I know Modern Piano and they are very nice people. I would call them and ask what they have.


Thanks, I'll do that.

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I have not heard of Valley Piano, but it appears that they more or less specialize in used pianos, at least from their website.


Ok..I'll keep them on the list and give them a call.

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I am on the other side of the state. My nearest location to you is King of Prussia. We always have a nice selection of reconditioned upright pianos but we may be a 4 hour drive for you, depending on where you are in PA.


It's actually 5 + hours but for me, it would be worth if there were a really good selection of uprights in my price range. (less than $3,500 and hopefully 1000 less smile )

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I also know Rick Jones. He is a nice guy and I like him personally. His specialty is importing already used pianos from Asia and reselling them here. This has become increasingly expensive to do and the result is that he is selling 45 year old Yamaha U1 pianos in all original condition for the same price as some decent new pianos - or very nice used pianos.


He's 4.5 hours away from me, does your comment mean I should pass him by?

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I wish you good luck in your search. You have a great resource here at PW.


Thanks, I appreciate all of the help I get here.

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Just to add one data point, I called Modern Piano in Wexford PA and asked them about their inventory and what they do for the price.

He could only quote me a few console pianos, and he said all that they do is clean them up to sell, no rebuilding of any sort.

That seems in line with the others sellers in my other thread who do the same thing...for $3000 or less, I'm not getting any upright that's had any in depth work done to it, just evaluated, cleaned and lubed...

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I think there a lot of decent used pianos that don't need to be refurbished, so I don't think you need to worry about that so much. Basically, you just need to evaluate the piano in front of you, that you can see and touch and play (as opposed to something like "upright, 30 y/o piano..." type of abstract information)


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PianoWVBob #2860985 06/20/19 05:14 PM
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Bob - what sort of rebuilding are you expecting for modestly priced uprights? Complete rebuilding and restoration is a very time consuming, labor intensive, expensive process and typically only done for the most expensive pianos.
For most consumer grade pianos, replacement of some strings, or some hammers or other less extensive repairs are usually done. A complete rebuild would cost as much or more than a new modestly priced upright.


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Originally Posted by j&j
Bob - what sort of rebuilding are you expecting for modestly priced uprights? Complete rebuilding and restoration is a very time consuming, labor intensive, expensive process and typically only done for the most expensive pianos.
For most consumer grade pianos, replacement of some strings, or some hammers or other less extensive repairs are usually done. A complete rebuild would cost as much or more than a new modestly priced upright.

When I said "rebuild" that's what I meant...what you mentioned.

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Originally Posted by ShiroKuro
I think there a lot of decent used pianos that don't need to be refurbished, so I don't think you need to worry about that so much. Basically, you just need to evaluate the piano in front of you, that you can see and touch and play (as opposed to something like "upright, 30 y/o piano..." type of abstract information)

Yes, true.

I'm an engineer so I sort of hash things out 100 times before I ever step foot in front of whatever I'm going to work on smile

I can't help it. I try and foresee every problem before it happens and then I take a shot. I'm not the sort though, to spend months shopping for pianos...I'll hopefully walk away with a sale after the weekend of shop visits.

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Tom Bayus at Valley Piano is a really good guy, I would recommend his shop.


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Re: Has anyone been to any large piano stores in western PA?
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Hi Bob - One of the tricks to successful negotiation is being able to walk out with no deal. Use your best poker face and play pianos, lots of pianos, and take your time. There’s always next weekend or the weekend after that.
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I often wonder what the word "reconditioned" means.
People who sell used pianos from Japan often say
"refurbished" ?
My bad experience with grey market pianos caused me to look up the" factory "in Osaka".Not much to see except pictures of people painting pianos.
I returned the piano and was refunded thank heavens.
So refurbished to me seems like a" paint job"
Perhaps that YU10 was dropped in a pond ?Quite glamorous looking though !
I know some people do however end up with a successful grey market piano so I do not want to
scare anyone.Perhaps you need to take a piano technician with you on your journey ? Best wishes
on finding the right piano.There is one out there !

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Originally Posted by ebonykawai
Tom Bayus at Valley Piano is a really good guy, I would recommend his shop.

Thank you...I was wondering about that. I'll put them on the list too.


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