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Andre Previn and Oscar Peterson playing a duet #2859461
06/17/19 06:38 AM
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The duet starts at 2:50.

I hope this isn't a repost, it's quite an old video but I just watched this and I was totally mind-blown, the way they were both in sync, the way they both mimic each other and just build on each other's solos. Crazy. Just a few days ago I was watching Previn accompanying Rubinstein in a piano concerto as a conductor, and now I see him improvising side-by-side with a jazz legend.

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Re: Andre Previn and Oscar Peterson playing a duet [Re: PianoYos] #2859580
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Hi

It's a great clip. The whole show (or as much as the BBC recorded/showed) is available on YouTube and has been shown on BBC4 a few times. To be able to see and hear Oscar Peterson and Andre Previn talking about music, and playing, is something we should all be grateful for.

Sadly its the sort of thing that would probably never happen these days.

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Re: Andre Previn and Oscar Peterson playing a duet [Re: PianoYos] #2859614
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Very few musicians reach a high level in both classical and jazz. Previn, Gulda, probably Jarrett(I don't know how good his rare classical forays are) are the only ones I can think of. I think Bill Evans may have played classical at a very advanced level but never in concert/recordings. When pianists like Matsuev or Cziffra play jazz or pop I find it very unappealing.

Pianists like Earl Wild, Stephen Hough, Weissenberg, and quite a few others have made terrific non jazz arrangements of popular music.

I don't know how good Lucas Debargue's jazz playing is but he might fit into the category of excellent in both classical and jazz.

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Re: Andre Previn and Oscar Peterson playing a duet [Re: PianoYos] #2859718
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Originally Posted by Simon b
To be able to see and hear Oscar Peterson and Andre Previn talking about music, and playing, is something we should all be grateful for.


Agreed.

I particularly loved what Previn does at 4:30, and how Peterson picks it right up at 4:39 with another dissonant chord and goes straight into his solo, it's just absolutely brilliant.

Originally Posted by pianoloverus
When pianists like Matsuev or Cziffra play jazz or pop I find it very unappealing.


Is it because they're bad at it? I listened to Yuja Wang's transcription of Art Tatum's Tea for Two a couple of days ago and I have to say I really didn't like it at all...

Re: Andre Previn and Oscar Peterson playing a duet [Re: PianoYos] #2860176
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Originally Posted by PianoYos
Originally Posted by pianoloverus
When pianists like Matsuev or Cziffra play jazz or pop I find it very unappealing.
Is it because they're bad at it? I listened to Yuja Wang's transcription of Art Tatum's Tea for Two a couple of days ago and I have to say I really didn't like it at all...
The Art Tatum version of Tea for Two is a published transcription and not by Yuja Wang. I have heard her play that and liked it so I'm wondering what you didn't like about.

When I mentioned Matsuev and Cziffra I was talking about their playing their own jazz pieces and not published transcriptions of another pianist. To me, Cziffra sounds like a classical pianist playing jazz using classical harmony and passagework, and Matsuev seems mostly interested in how fast he can play.

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Re: Andre Previn and Oscar Peterson playing a duet [Re: pianoloverus] #2860238
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
The Art Tatum version of Tea for Two is a published transcription and not by Yuja Wang. I have heard her play that and liked it so I'm wondering what you didn't like about.
When I mentioned Matsuev and Cziffra I was talking about their playing their own jazz pieces and not published transcriptions of another pianist. To me, Cziffra sounds like a classical pianist playing jazz using classical harmony and passagework, and Matsuev seems mostly interested in how fast he can play.

Oddly enough, for me personally, it's the exact same reason why you don't like Cziffra's jazz - it just sounded too classical for my taste. A bit too clean, a bit too slow, a bit too much drag in the tempo, a bit to pedantic, etc. It just sort of loses the "on-the-spot" spontaneous feel you get from Tatum's playing. But this is really just my unfiltered opinion of it. It's nice to see a well-established classical pianist making reference to a jazz legend.

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