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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
But Hamburg Steinway makes or has made art case pianos, so your statement is false.The only difference is the NY Steinway has called their latest showroom the vault which is an insignificant difference.


German Steinway actually made more art case pianos than US Steinway. I think everybody (well, I mean everybody in the world, not only here) know that. And in some asians countries, brand new art case Spirio Steinways are sold like cup cakes to rich peoples! Even that, no need to have such a stupid "secret" (yeah, the word they put ridiculously on medias) vault with thick door and biologic lock etc. to expose pianos.

If, personally, somebody like this idea, how lucky they are!
Not me, that's all!

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Sorry, but to me this is the perhaps most ridiculous looking piano I ever saw.
IMHO, it certainly does not do justice to the name Steinway. 😌
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I really do not like that pinkish coloured light.It seems to
look a "Barby doll morgue "
Perhaps because I am slightly claustrophobic it seems worse
than it is.

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
"Barby doll morgue "
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I just read the article and I don't see what all of the negative comments are for. They have 200 MILLION dollars worth of pianos in that room and they want to keep them safe, and want to show them off to those who think 2 million dollar pianos are worth buying...so a vault door, lots of security and really nice lighting.

What's the big deal?

Lots of manufacturers of musical instruments have their "for the ultra rich" line of instruments. Good for them.

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Originally Posted by johnstaf
Originally Posted by Lady Bird
"Barby doll morgue "
ha grin


Made me think about 80’s comedies too, this pink violet neon lighting laugh


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Originally Posted by malkin
The phrase "secret vault" lost all possible mystery for me in 1986 after that silly tv stunt with Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone's vault and finding nothing.

Oh, man! I remember that. Has it really been 33 years?


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Originally Posted by PianoWVBob
They have 200 MILLION dollars worth of pianos in that room and they want to keep them safe


I really don't think a bunch of special veneer pianos (crown jewel) and some special design pianos in this ugly morgue worth 200 million dollars. Or is that the story they sell to their ultra rich clients?


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Originally Posted by trandinhnamanh
Originally Posted by PianoWVBob
They have 200 MILLION dollars worth of pianos in that room and they want to keep them safe


I really don't think a bunch of special veneer pianos (crown jewel) and some special design pianos in this ugly morgue worth 200 million dollars. Or is that the story they sell to their ultra rich clients?

Not sure what article Bob read?
Six pianos in the vault...
Article states the value of three at $2.5 million, $217k, and $199k.
The article also states the other three average $200k in value.
So even with Steinways inflated values, the total would be $3.516 million.

Plus the vault is in the factory.
So if it was really needed to keep the pianos safe, that would mean the rest of the inventory was at risk.

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Agreed -- might have been an extra zero or two slipped in, or something. The entire holding firm was bought in 2013 for $512mm, to put it in perspective.

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It's just marketing. They have a bunch of designer pianos they can't sell so they stick them in a "vault" with a fancy door. How could someone steal one of these pianos? How could they sell it?

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Originally Posted by johnstaf
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"Barby doll morgue "
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Yes, a very apt description...



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At least a right place for a piano such as Lang Lang Black Diamond sick


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Music is art, these piano's are art.

Whether you like them or not is irrelevant.

No need to be cracking on these piano's for whatever reason.

My mother always told me "if you have nothing positive to say it is better not to speak"

Some of you should listen to my mother.


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Originally Posted by trandinhnamanh
At least a right place for a piano such as Lang Lang Black Diamond sick

But those are Hamburgers, Nam Anh! laugh

It is funny they don’t have one in there though.
No Hamburgs allowed, apparently.


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In western society we put art in an art gallery to contemplate on it.We go to the symphonic hall to hear
sublime music to give meaning to us.
With other so called " ethnic people" art serves a social function. It used for dancing even wearing clothes.
For protest music etc.
This thing where pianos are kept in this place is not art
it is just marketing by Steinways for the very wealthy.
These pianos are not art even though they have fancy
cabinets
Art and it's meaning is about life nothing more.

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Originally Posted by jeffscot
Originally Posted by trandinhnamanh
At least a right place for a piano such as Lang Lang Black Diamond sick

But those are Hamburgers, Nam Anh! laugh

It is funny they don’t have one in there though.
No Hamburgs allowed, apparently.




Apparently the Lalique Steinway in the vault is Hamburg made


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Excerpt the Pictures in exhibition D, all other grands in this “secret vault” such as Crown Jewel edition, Lalique, Imagine ect. have been exposed in Steinway Paris showroom, where everyone can take a visit and play on without any secret. Ah, one more different remark: all of them are Hamburgers. Apparently no NY Steinways allowed, ooups!

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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
In western society we put art in an art gallery to contemplate on it.We go to the symphonic hall to hear
sublime music to give meaning to us.
With other so called " ethnic people" art serves a social function. It used for dancing even wearing clothes.
For protest music etc.
This thing where pianos are kept in this place is not art
it is just marketing by Steinways for the very wealthy.
These pianos are not art even though they have fancy
cabinets
Art and it's meaning is about life nothing more.


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I have to disagree. Just because us normal folks cant buy/afford it, the art status does not get taken away.

Like I said before, the fact you don't like/appreciate it has nothing to do with it being art.


Art is a diverse range of human activities in creating visual, auditory or performing artifacts (artworks), expressing the author's imaginative, conceptual ideas, or technical skill, intended to be appreciated for their beauty or emotional power.


If you don't think this is art I don't know what is!


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