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Piano lid crashing down on head #2858651
06/14/19 08:27 PM
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So the picture below is not the exact Baldwin I worked on (I found the image on google), but it is the same model. I am always careful with these type of lids, but this time I was not careful enough. I had just finished up tuning and closed the lid. The client complained the soft pedal was uneven, so I opened the lid up quickly and didn’t take the same precautions as I did while tuning. I stuck my head in to take a closer look and bam the lid came down. The client starts screaming and has a look of horror on her face. Her screaming makes me feel like I’m done for. I run around in circles in a panic with her and check to see if my head is still there and no holes are in it. I tell her to calm down. She said it looked so bad when the lid fell on me she thought I would be seriously injured. My neck hurts more than the bump on my head, but luckily no symptoms of a serious head injury.

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I prefer small dog bites on my leg to having a lid fall on my head. I have one more appointment today and think I should wear a helmet and a dog bite protective suit just to survive the day.

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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858665
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Dang dude, I dint know working on piano's was that dangerous. At least you didn't bleed all over the piano.


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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858667
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If that's a Baldwin Hamilton, they usually have a built-in lid prop right behind the music desk.


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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858670
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That looks lethal! Glad you're ok.

Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858673
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Yes, check that left side for the swing-down prop that safely supports those big lids - as long as the hinge pins are in!

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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858685
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See the little white rectangular slip glued on the left underside of the music shelf? Next time, read it and understand what it means! The lid prop is on the opposite side.


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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858716
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Was the piano damaged? crazy

Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858722
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I prefer small dog bites on my leg to having a lid fall on my head.


You don't have to pick one of those. You can opt to have neither.....

Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: David Boyce] #2858724
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Originally Posted by David Boyce
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I prefer small dog bites on my leg to having a lid fall on my head.


You don't have to pick one of those. You can opt to have neither.....


But if the owner of a Hamilton has a dog that bites you... I know, drop the lid on the DOG's head!


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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858732
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I am so glad you are OK.If you start getting headaches or
any other symptoms, see a doctor.

Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858755
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Its all in your head...😉😎😁

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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: UnrightTooner] #2858784
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Originally Posted by UnrightTooner


But if the owner of a Hamilton has a dog that bites you... I know, drop the lid on the DOG's head!


grin

Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: spanishbuddha] #2858855
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Originally Posted by spanishbuddha
Was the piano damaged? crazy


No, piano is fine. My head cushioned the fall very nicely.

Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858861
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+1 on using the built-in lid prop on these Baldwin Hamilton uprights.
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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: AWilley] #2858875
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Originally Posted by AWilley
+1 on using the built-in lid prop on these Baldwin Hamilton uprights


-1,500 for me not using the built-in lid prop

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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858949
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I can attest to the fact that there are some of these pianos out there that have NO lid prop...
I have to regularly service one in the local area, and I ALWAYS forget to take something to prop it...Really, just unscrew the hinges in back and lift the whole thing out of the way. It saves a lot of irritation and possible injury (really are quite a trap).
The one I service crashed down on me once, and it ripped the right hinge out...Had propped it up with a stick--- like you the customer asked me something about the piano, and I bent over to show something and and bumped the edge of the lid, knocking the stick out-- crash. Since then I always remove the whole top from the scene.

You're also not alone in the dog bite arena either--- I too was bit recently for the first time ever. The owner came into the room from outdoors with the dog, and the dog immediately started over toward me yelping. Cute. Will never trust that tiny dog again! Jumped up and bit my knee just as I was starting to bend over to pat it... Thankfully it didn't break the skin.


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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858961
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If it is missing the lid prop, you should replace it before doing any other work on the piano. The oldest Baldwin of this design that I ever came across had small brass props that swung out to rest on the top of the back. I have also had to replace the top on one that had the hinge screws removed by someone who did not know to use the prop, and I can assure you, that was not fun!


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Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858989
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Thanks for such information. It was useful for me to know it's. It looks like a mousetrap for a tuner. Is not it? In my head it does not fit what the designers of this piano thought or rather "did not think". I can not understand how this could appear in the United States. I have culture shock now.
Hope your head and your neck will be fine.
Be carefull always,

Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: TimM_980] #2858990
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need screwed off 6 screws of desk to have good tuning service for it's, I'm think

Re: Piano lid crashing down on head [Re: Lady Bird] #2858992
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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
I am so glad you are OK.If you start getting headaches or
any other symptoms, see a doctor.

I agree,
especially if you have morning nausea.

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