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Professional tuning application recommendation #2858521
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Hi
I want your recommendation for the best piano tuning application. I came across some but the prices vary and some are really high. Which one shall I buy?

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Re: Professional tuning application recommendation [Re: DPCK] #2858525
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I really like verituner..... lots of great custom style options on it too.

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Re: Professional tuning application recommendation [Re: DPCK] #2858531
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Do you want the best ones, or a listing of the cheaper ones? You original post is slightly contradictory. My mentor uses iRCT and I have Verituner. Both can create very nice tunings, provided you can check things by ear as you go.


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Re: Professional tuning application recommendation [Re: DPCK] #2858547
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All the professional applications work. None is unsatisfactory. The best value by a long way is PianoMeter.

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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
Do you want the best ones, or a listing of the cheaper ones? You original post is slightly contradictory. My mentor uses iRCT and I have Verituner. Both can create very nice tunings, provided you can check things by ear as you go.


I don't mind investing. I am not looking for the cheapest. I am looking for the best value for money. Since the price range is so wide and the applications offer very similar options, it is hard to decide.

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Originally Posted by David Boyce
All the professional applications work. None is unsatisfactory. The best value by a long way is PianoMeter.


I saw that it has the cheapest price, yet does it give the same result like the more expensive apps ?

Re: Professional tuning application recommendation [Re: DPCK] #2858604
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Yes it does. See, for example, the thread on Using Easy Piano Tuner (now called PianoMeter) a couple of threads down from this one.

Achieving a "good result" depends much more on the skills in a tuner's arm than on which software is used. Learning to use the lever properly to set the string, set the pin, and get pure, clean, and stable unisons, are vital skills that don't depend on apps.

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David,
I don’t see Pianometer or Easy Piano Tuner in the App Store. Is it Android only?
Which ETDs have you used? Just curious. I definitely agree about the skills needed to get a good result.


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Re: Professional tuning application recommendation [Re: DPCK] #2858631
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It's Android only, yes. Check out the nearby thread Using Easy Piano Tuner. Or go to www.easypianotuner.com

I've also used Tunelab.

Re: Professional tuning application recommendation [Re: DPCK] #2858642
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I look for the gear that has the best chance of being responsive to the quirks of any piano scale that I happen to tune.

For me, that translates to taking a large number of measurements of the piano, and having software that can make use of all of those measurements to create the tuning calculation. Picture trying to make a topographic map of a ravine, would you want to take a few measurements to determine a trend and then map that, or would you like to take a lot of measurements to make sure the map more closely matches the terrain?

Verituner sits at the top of the heap of tuning devices that meet those goals. Pianometer comes in a little behind because of how it boils down the information from each measurement to a single number. (Also, I don't remember how much user control there is to alter stretch - can someone else chime in?) Entropy has promise, but doesn't seem to be ready for pro use - and also takes a lot of time to use!

As with any software, you'll have a better chance of getting the best results by going beyond just turning it on and tuning. (help control variables during the measuring process, control the stretch, adjust the temperament....)

Good luck!

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The real 'interface' in tuning, is the physical one between the human wielding the tuning lever, and the piano.

Discussion of which software has most flexibility, ease of use, 'tweak potential' etc is worthless if the person using the software has not mastered the physical interface between himself or herself, and the piano.

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Tunelab is free to try (or at least it used to be). That seems like a good place to start.


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