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Yamaha nu1x happy owners? #2858271
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Hi all,

I'm about to pull the trigger on an nu1x after playing one today, I was really impressed. I was looking at the kawai ca98 and some acoustic uprights with silent tech and in the shop today they had a good deal on a Casio gp500 which I liked the feel of but seemed a bit mute in comparison to the yamaha. I know there have been some issues picked up with the Nu1x but it looks like these are better now with the latest software?

Would be good to hear from some owners and how happy you are with it, if your happy to stay with it long term. I did compare it to a u3 and that did sound very good, but i think I would be happy long term with it....

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I’m awaiting the delivery of my NU1X. It’s taking forever.

So I’m no owner yet, but the NU1 was the clear winner when I tried and compared it with any CLP-6X5 and the CA78/98 and the Rolands.

I trust that I will keep it for a very long time.

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Might be worth skimming through CyberGene’s humungous thread , and although he eventually upgraded to an N1X the loud note issue is reportedly fixed with the latest firmware update available to download.

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I have had mine for about 6 months and I love it. I also looked at the CA78/98 and CLP-685 but preferred the keyboard and CFX sound of the NU1X. I was initially looking for an acoustic upright but needed the headphones option and the NU1X was about as close as I could get to having the experience of playing an acoustic upright. I got mine knowing about the loud note issue that has since been fixed.

BTW definitely glad I went with the NU1X over an acoustic. It turns out I didn't realize how much more I would play having the headphones option available.


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I'm extremely pleased with my NU1X after 7 months. The alternatives I considered were Kawai's CS Series, and the N1 (no X version back then). I also played the U1 and U3 Silents, but with no realistic plan to spend that kind of money. At the NU1x's pricepoint, I don't think there's a more convincing emulation of every aspect of an acoustic piano, that can also be played through headphones.

Had I known about the N1x's arrival and about the bonus situation at my job, back when I was shopping, I might have preferred to take a deeper look at both the N1x and the Kawai Nv10. However, as a hobby player, and someone who grew up with an upright, I have no regrets about that.


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Re: Yamaha nu1x happy owners? [Re: Musashi] #2858580
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Good to hear your both happy with it. I read through cybergenes post does make me think an acoustic would be a safer bet long term for any problems as would be easy to sort out but then to get one with a silent mode is a lot more money and then the regular maintenance cost on top. Will probably be joining you ilogic with the long wait!

Do you use it to listen to music too? I thought it sounded really good as a Bluetooth speaker too so that's an added bonus

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Originally Posted by Musashi
Good to hear your both happy with it. I read through cybergenes post does make me think an acoustic would be a safer bet long term for any problems as would be easy to sort out but then to get one with a silent mode is a lot more money and then the regular maintenance cost on top. Will probably be joining you ilogic with the long wait!

Do you use it to listen to music too? I thought it sounded really good as a Bluetooth speaker too so that's an added bonus


If you do go the NU1X route you will need to get the Bluetooth adapter. Probably my only real complaint is I don't understand why Yamaha didn't include wireless connectivity in the unit or at least have a card slot rather than these clunky USB adapters.

Bradley G I am glad I didn't know about the N1X. For my ability and coming from an acoustic spinet the NU1X was and still is the best choice for me. I don't second guess it at all. However if if the N1X had been an option it would have made the decision a bit harder and maybe some second guessing down the road...


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I thought the adapter was for WiFi and that Bluetooth was built in. I linked to it in the shop with my phone via bluetoooth, they said if I wanted to use the Yamaha app wireless though it needs WiFi adapter

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Originally Posted by Musashi
I thought the adapter was for WiFi and that Bluetooth was built in. I linked to it in the shop with my phone via bluetoooth, they said if I wanted to use the Yamaha app wireless though it needs WiFi adapter


I'm not 100% sure about this for your piano, but here's what I've learned on my AvantGrand N3X... there's two things that get streamed: MIDI and audio. The Bluetooth built in your NU1X is for audio only (which is cool and something I wish my N3X had). For streaming MIDI data you might need to connect a wireless Bluetooth dongle (as I did) to the MIDI in/out ports. If so I highly recommend the mi.1 device. It's like $50 on Amazon, doesn't stick out like the Yamaha dongle, and works well.

P.S. I also auditioned the NU1X at my local store and was extremely impressed. I love how quick and light the action is. After bouncing around on Clavinovas, I was astounded at how much better the feel and sound were on the NU1X... light years! My dream Clavinova would be something like the CSP-170 with the NU1X action and acoustic sampling built in!

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Originally Posted by Musashi
I thought the adapter was for WiFi and that Bluetooth was built in. I linked to it in the shop with my phone via bluetoooth, they said if I wanted to use the Yamaha app wireless though it needs WiFi adapter


The NU1X has built in Bluetooth for streaming music to it. However, it doesn’t support data over Bluetooth. You need to use any one of the following for that: Wifi adapter (UD-WL01), Bluetooth adapter (MD-BT01) or a usb cable. That includes using the Smart Pianist app to change parameters, controlling VST’s etc, or doing direct digital recordings.

I use the Bluetooth music streaming often. Music through the instruments speakers sounds quite good, especially if you are trying to make yourself playing into it.


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Also, I’d note that neither wireless interface is fast enough to control VST’s and stream the sound through the speakers without unusable latency. I always use a lightning to USB cable for midi stuff now.


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Originally Posted by BradleyG
Also, I’d note that neither wireless interface is fast enough to control VST’s and stream the sound through the speakers without unusable latency. I always use a lightning to USB cable for midi stuff now.


Sadly, true. As much better as BLE is over BT audio for latency, is still a net 20-30ms slower than just using a USB cable. Saving 30ms is HUGE in VST world, such that I can't imagine going to the lengths many people do to decrease latency in their audio stream, and then use BT-MIDI.


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Originally Posted by BradleyG
Also, I’d note that neither wireless interface is fast enough to control VST’s and stream the sound through the speakers without unusable latency. I always use a lightning to USB cable for midi stuff now.

My experience, albeit with an NU1 and MD-BT01 is dfferent. I connect via BT to an iPad. It’s fine. On an older model iPad I was using I would notice a slight latency, which the brain soon smoothed away, but now on a later model I don’t notice it at all. Also leaving local control off allows for some interesting sound blending. Unusable, not at all, YMMV.

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I never regretted my choice to turn in the Novus NV10 for the NU1X. It's simply a superior instrument. The sound production is one of the best on the market, especially when playing back music via BT Audio.

Also it's the first DP i have, there playing with a VST over the build in speakers sounds beautiful. On every other instrument it was pure garbage.

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Wait, are you saying that the NU1X is better than the Novus?
I must’ve misread that; I apologize in advance if that is the case.

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In my eyes, the Novus is a good instrument, but way too expensive for what it is. The sound quality via speakers and headphones is subpar compared to the NU1X setup. When pairing the smartphone to both instruments and playback music, you clearly hear the difference between them. I tried using the build in speakers and also headphone jacks to use with a VST. On the NU1X it was almost perfect. The sound quality on both build in speakers and headphones was great. No need to use the headphones on the running laptop/pc. The Novus must be wired via Line In and the sound wasn't impressive. On top of that, when using the headphone jacks with the VST input via line in, it was the most horrible experience i've ever had, especially because i only got mono sound on the headphones on this setup. All of this you can get on a CA78 which is three times cheaper. But after spending 8.000 €, i expected more than that.


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Placed the order just got to wait now for the delivery company to contact me. Looking forward to trying the Bluetooth playback again. I was surprised at the power of the speakers which I found out accidentally when I started one of the demo songs and someone had left the volume full blast, I then couldn't find the volume knob lol

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Congratulations. Let us hear your impressions when it has arrived. wink


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Originally Posted by Musashi
Placed the order just got to wait now for the delivery company to contact me. Looking forward to trying the Bluetooth playback again. I was surprised at the power of the speakers which I found out accidentally when I started one of the demo songs and someone had left the volume full blast, I then couldn't find the volume knob lol

Congratulations! I've had mine for almost a year, and it is a joy to play. The recent firmware update all but eliminates the "loud note" issue.

Keep us posted!

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I have it and it's great, I have experienced a loud note but not when properly playing and when I tried to reproduce it I couldn't. My fingers are definitely getting a work out going from a very old digital without weighted keys to this, but feels so much better to play and obviously sounds a lot better too. At first thought the sound wasn't as good as in stores, the movers put it up against the wall but then I read the manual and saw about the 10cm gap so moved it and there was a big improvement. Also I am enjoying when having a break from playing using the Bluetooth to play music through it sounds good. I bought the Bluetooth midi dongle straightaway to use with flowkey as I couldn't bear the cable draped on it and that is working flawlessly so far. Will be interesting to see what my dad thinks of it having always played an acoustic all his life


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