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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2843910
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Late to this thread. Thinking very seriously about it. But my situation isn't the normal.

I play out in three different groups. I have some very nice acoustic instruments at home. Like, very nice. I am not a pro, just an enthusiastic hobbyist.

Where the Nord Grand might work well for me is when I want to bring game to a classy, small acoustic gig. One of my groups is a vocal duo where the only instrument is piano. Think private parties, country club gigs, wedding rehearsal dinners and the like. They pay well for the experience. So I'm inclined to invest and see what happens.

Electronically, and acoustically it's a NP4 (or Nord Stage 3) with a bit of attitude. Ample piano memory. Not much new here. The expanded sample memory is convenient, but -- in the real world -- not essential. I can do everything I need to do with my 1GB in the NP4. Even I find it hard to tell the difference between L samples and XL samples, no matter how closely I listen.

I typically play through killer-diller amplification. Ear candy for myself, and the audience if they care to listen. The full potential of the instrument is laid bare for all to hear -- as well as my sloppy playing.

Aesthetically, it's not exactly a slab. It looks organic. Tres cool. Others on my circuit bring shiny plastic piano shells, which I can't really wrap my head around. It just looks cheezy to me, especially when more than a few folks in the audience have an acoustic grand at home.

But it looks like a real instrument vs. a slab computer. I am intrigued.

The wild card is the Kawai action -- will it bring magic? I get magic on my high-end acoustic grand, will this be close enough to the real deal that I can't tell the difference?

We'll see.


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: cphollis] #2844099
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Originally Posted by cphollis
The wild card is the Kawai action -- will it bring magic? I get magic on my high-end acoustic grand, will this be close enough to the real deal that I can't tell the difference?


With a Bosie at home? Hardly wink
But it might still be enjoyable to play...

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2844743
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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2846224
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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2849522
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Fresh, new "red" scones in the bakery are ready to go wink
https://scontent.fscl11-2.fna.fbcdn...f66ca81fb86847d2f9511d68&oe=5D518D35

And finally, the first presentation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=149&v=QqYEj5dBPhs
Sound quality is r...sh but always something.


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: RichieBill] #2849548
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Originally Posted by RichieBill
And finally, the first presentation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=149&v=QqYEj5dBPhs
Sound quality is r...sh but always something.

OMG, is that what pianists do with one of these Nords? Play the dials, knobs, and buttons instead of the keys?

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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2849555
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by RichieBill
And finally, the first presentation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=149&v=QqYEj5dBPhs
Sound quality is r...sh but always something.

OMG, is that what pianists do with one of these Nords? Play the dials, knobs, and buttons instead of the keys?


It's what they do with the VSTs as well -- endless fiddling with knobs, comparisons, downloads, etc. Sure, some of that is necessary, but most of the activity is orthogonal to making music.

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: mcontraveos] #2849567
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...I will further say that I am certainly guilty of my share of playing with the settings.

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2849589
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I play with LOTS of settings. Eighty-eight of them. smile

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: MacMacMac] #2849599
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I play with LOTS of settings. Eighty-eight of them. smile

Do they work in combination? wink


across the stone, deathless piano performances

"Discipline is more reliable than motivation." -by a contributor on Reddit r/piano
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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2858036
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New sample "White grand" alreade released:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=_kW-s7xboRI
XL version has 245MB. In comparsion to other XLs (200MB) is really grewed.


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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: RichieBill] #2858059
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Originally Posted by RichieBill
New sample "White grand" alreade released:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=_kW-s7xboRI
XL version has 245MB. In comparsion to other XLs (200MB) is really grewed.


Sounds grand (pun intended) smile but the price of a Nord coupled with their meh action just cannot entice me...

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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2858087
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Wait, the Nord Grand has not been discontinued yet?
And here I thought that thing had been demolished; only to find out that Nord is still trying to convince us that the price tag is just fine. Heck, you could almost get an NU1+ some loud notes for that kind of money!

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2858459
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A new White Grand sample. Sounds nice! Sampled from a Steinway "B":

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=_kW-s7xboRI[/video]

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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Pete14] #2858481
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Originally Posted by Pete14
Wait, the Nord Grand has not been discontinued yet?
And here I thought that thing had been demolished; only to find out that Nord is still trying to convince us that the price tag is just fine. Heck, you could almost get an NU1+ some loud notes for that kind of money!


I stand corrected: the NU1 no longer includes loud notes!

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2858579
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Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: jamiecw] #2858714
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Originally Posted by jamiecw
Sounds grand (pun intended) smile but the price of a Nord coupled with their meh action just cannot entice me...


But the Grand uses a Kawai action and not a meh action. wink

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: clothearednincompo] #2858748
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Originally Posted by clothearednincompo
Originally Posted by jamiecw
Sounds grand (pun intended) smile but the price of a Nord coupled with their meh action just cannot entice me...


But the Grand uses a Kawai action and not a meh action. wink


Its the Kawai RH3 action. Makes me wonder - do you think Kawai are about to announce upgrades to GFC action of their top ends slabs?

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2858750
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I am not interested in the RH3, but the demo of the Nord white grand sounds better than any Kawai sample. But obviously we have to take any demo with a pinch of salt.

Re: Nord introduces Nord Grand with Kawai Hammer action [Re: akc42] #2858787
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Originally Posted by akc42
Its the Kawai RH3 action. Mates me wonder - do you think Kawai are about to announce upgrades to GFC action of their top ends slabs?


It is expected if we compare the nearly 20kg of the Nord Piano Grand with VPC1 (30kg) and ES8 (20kg), but I have not read anything official about this. I would be interested in knowing your source.


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