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Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
pianoloverus #2856917 06/09/19 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Make a list of the pluses and minuses of each. You probably already know what they are and only you can decide. There is no "right" answer.


The Bullet Proof Musician recommends flipping a coin for difficult musical decisions and then asking yourself how you would feel if you were forced to live with the coin flip. Happy? Disappointed? Why???? The context he uses is fingering/interpretive roadblocks, but seems like it could also apply here.

Interesting perspective.
https://bulletproofmusician.com/con...-accelerate-the-decision-making-process/

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Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
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Thank you for your suggestion. Well, I am not a professional player, nor any academic in music. I am just a mature student who is working hard towards my diploma piano examination. (I have attained my grade 8 30 years ago which I have just my interest in piano reignited and resumed my piano lessons few months ago... While I was practising my Ravel Sonatine, I found I might seriously need the sostenuto pedal.... but then isn’t it the reason for me to choose a grand of lower/different series for only one piece?

Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
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May I know what was your final choice back then?

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I actually tried both models at my local Bechstein dealer ... and what he said echoes the sentiment of most people on this thread - you can't go wrong with either of them , it depends on what your priorities are . Having said that I'd like to know how the soundboard sizes (the area) on uprights compare to grands and their relevance , since many people say that tall uprights (52") have more soundboard area than many baby grands .

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Thank you for your input too. The sound board size of the upright is 131cm vs that of the baby grand which is 175cm.

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According to Bechstein home page the C8 takes 180 hours to build over a period of 8 months, while the A175 takes 250 hours over a period of a year.

If it was me, I would probably have taken the A175, if it was my cousin he would definitely have taken the C8. As others have pointed out, you will not go wrong with either choice. Winnie-the-Pooh would have taken one of each.

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I'm sure Bechstein will fit a sostenuto to their upright if you want it.

Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
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Surely the Concert 8 has a sostenuto pedal ?

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Lady Bird,

Given the choice of a moderator and a sostenuto pedal for a vertical piano, I’d pick the moderator 97/100 times. Wouldn’t you?


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Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
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The Concert 8 is no doubt an amazing piano, but it isn't a grand. I tried alongside Bechstein grands, some C Bechstein and some Bechstein Academy. For me, it wasn't close. Did you try grand pianos along with the upright? Buying either one is wonderful. (I am not an expert, just sharing my experience of trying them in Manhattan on a single afternoon. I think you will have to decide.)


Which dealers did you visit in Manhattan? What was your experience?

Faust Harrison. Very well prepared pianos, friendly staff. I tried several uprights, as I was considering an upright for a second piano. Ended up buying a large grand. The model L C Bechstein, though, what an example of that they had!

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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
Lady Bird,

Given the choice of a moderator and a sostenuto pedal for a vertical piano, I’d pick the moderator 97/100 times. Wouldn’t you?

I have no idea what moderator you are referring to when you talk
of vertical pianos,please could you explain ?

Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
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Originally Posted by ppsam
Thank you for your suggestion. Well, I am not a professional player, nor any academic in music. I am just a mature student who is working hard towards my diploma piano examination. (I have attained my grade 8 30 years ago which I have just my interest in piano reignited and resumed my piano lessons few months ago... While I was practising my Ravel Sonatine, I found I might seriously need the sostenuto pedal.... but then isn’t it the reason for me to choose a grand of lower/different series for only one piece?

OK I see what Terminaldegree is referring to. According to Piano
Buyer when choosing the Concert 8 ,you have a choice between
a Practice Pedal or a Sostenuto Pedal ! So there you are
You can have the Concert 8 with a Sostenuto Pedal .

Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
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Originally Posted by BDB
Belchstein eructs fine pianos. smile

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Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
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Originally Posted by Lady Bird
Originally Posted by BDB
Belchstein eructs fine pianos. smile

blush


My Merriam Webster dictionary says that the word “eructs” means belches. Is that really what was meant by the original poster?


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Re: C Belchstein Concert 8 vs Belchstein A175
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The Bullet Proof Musician recommends flipping a coin for difficult musical decisions and then asking yourself how you would feel if you were forced to live with the coin flip. Happy? Disappointed? Why???? The context he uses is fingering/interpretive roadblocks, but seems like it could also apply here.

Interesting perspective.
https://bulletproofmusician.com/con...-accelerate-the-decision-making-process/


Dogperson--Thanks for the link to "The Bullet Proof Musician." It is very valuable to me.


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Great! Thx for your information about the effort put in manufacturing each model respectively. This worths my consideration too. And I like your Winnie the Pooh Analogy

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Thank you. You are right, they can instal the sostenuto pedal into Concert 8, but what I have to pay and time extended to receive my piano will be almost equivalent to that of ordering a brand new A175 back to the time I asked. That’s also why it ends up to my seeking of all your expert opinions here. 🙏

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You are right, they can instal the sostenuto pedal into a Concert 8, but what I have to pay and time extended to receive my piano will be almost equivalent to that of ordering a brand new A175 back to the time I asked. That’s also why it ends up to my seeking of all your expert opinions here. 🙏

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Very interesting article and the way in difficult situations like mine. Thank you for your sharing.

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Thank you for your suggestion for the way which I could do in difficult situations like mine. I should have try after gathering more useful information.

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