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A DIFFERENT SOUND #2856336 06/07/19 09:54 AM
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My 1904 S&S was fully restored about a year ago, as in completely = new everything.
While some aspects are much improved, the overall sound, to me, is way too bright/bangy/tinny and I would prefer a deep, mellow, much bassier sound.
It didn't have the sound I'd prefer prior to the restoration, but it was better than it is now.
It had that bright crisp sound when I first received it and the tech told me it would settle over time, S/B needs to acclimate, strings need to stretch out properly, etc.
After 2 tunings, I don't think it's getting worse, but it sure isn't getting better.
Tech recently advised 2 things: 1) it still needs a little more time perhaps as much as another year, and 2) used Mapes strings and suggested that Profundo {sp? and i think that's what she called them} strings for the bass range and Rosenau {SP?} strings for all the rest would go a long way to get a sound that has more boom than bang.
Would you agree?

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Re: A DIFFERENT SOUND [Re: MICHAEL122] #2856347 06/07/19 10:20 AM
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What model is it? Did your tech not suggest hammer voicing? Seems extreme to talk about re-stringing again. Of course sound/tone perception is subjective and it's difficult for us to comment without having heard....

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Chances are it is the hammers, not voiced properly.


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Agreed that it’s likely a voicing issue. Or at a minimum it could be much improved with voicing.

It’s unlikely to ‘settle’ in from being way too bright and harsh to what you like. People hear differently and describe what they’re hearing differently. What may be normal or slightly bright to your technician can be harsh and unbearable to you. Perhaps you could find a piano which sounds more like what you’re looking for which your technician could hear. Or maybe find a recording. Just so he knows what you’re looking for. If he can’t make it sound right then find someone else.

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That's my first thought too. Seems odd to be talking about another re-stringing without a lot of things being tried with the hammers first. And I would have thought changing hammers would come before changing strings.

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No, tech didn't suggest a voicing, however, {and i should have mentioned it} a voicing was done at time of restoration, no idea to what extent, just that it was voiced.
But perhaps needs it done again more extensively?
Would that, coupled with the strings mentioned above, yield the desired sound or closer to it?
Or, would a voicing alone go a long way toward a more bassy sound?
It is a model A.

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Originally Posted by MICHAEL122
No, tech didn't suggest a voicing, however, {and i should have mentioned it} a voicing was done at time of restoration, no idea to what extent, just that it was voiced.


Was the tech the one who did the restoration? Either way, it's a little odd that the tech didn't mention voicing. You might try getting a second opinion.

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Originally Posted by MICHAEL122
...a voicing was done at time of restoration, no idea to what extent, just that it was voiced.


Voicing is to a large extent based on personal preference. It may have already been voiced, just not to your liking. I wouldn’t suggest you do anything to the piano until you get the opinion of a technician who you have confidence they’re able to voice it more how you like. Suggesting new strings to solve the problem of an overly bright newly restored piano seems odd.

Maybe you can record it and post it for us to hear?

It may be worth saying that it seems to be increasingly common to find pianos deliberately voiced on the brighter side. I don’t like it personally.


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