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Re: Duane Shinn 52 Week Crash Course [Re: dcupright] #2845581
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Originally Posted by dcupright


I love this song, your version is beautiful David. Thanks so much for sharing.


Thank you. There are a few more hymns in the lessons coming up.

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I'm diligently working on lesson 39. It's a long lesson with four songs that are arranged. However, here is a song from lesson 38 that I didn't want to rush past. It's one of the few songs in the course that Duane does not arrange. Evidently, Duane felt that learning the song as written would be enough work. I was tempted to rush past it, but I figured I'd better learn it. The title sounds familiar, but I don't recognize the melody. Here is a picture of the music that Duane felt would be challenging enough for a beginner like me. I'm kind of glad he didn't arrange it because it was a bit challenging for me to learn and I don't like spending a lot of time on songs that I don't particularly care about. The piano sound is the N1X CFX Grand.

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Now back to lesson 39. Three of the four songs in the lesson are hymns.

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I remember that song from my childhood, I think my grandmother used to sing it. Thanks for bringing back good memories, and once again thanks for sharing!

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Originally Posted by dcupright
I remember that song from my childhood, I think my grandmother used to sing it. Thanks for bringing back good memories, and once again thanks for sharing!


It does have a nice melody to it.

I played it for my father-in-law (he's 70) and he started singing the words. grin

According to Wikipedia the song was published in 1854.

There are no contemporary songs in this course since the lesson books were published by Hal Leonard in 1962.

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Originally Posted by David B
There are no contemporary songs in this course since the the lesson books were published by Hal Leonard in 1962.

Really? Duane Shinn first published his course in 1962? Wow...

This totally explains the name of the course though. The "52 weeks" thing would have gone over well in the 60's.


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Re: Duane Shinn 52 Week Crash Course [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2855483
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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There are no contemporary songs in this course since the the lesson books were published by Hal Leonard in 1962.

Really? Duane Shinn first published his course in 1962? Wow...

This totally explains the name of the course though. The "52 weeks" thing would have gone over well in the 60's.


I think he published it in the 80's.


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Originally Posted by David B
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There are no contemporary songs in this course since the the lesson books were published by Hal Leonard in 1962.

Really? Duane Shinn first published his course in 1962? Wow...

This totally explains the name of the course though. The "52 weeks" thing would have gone over well in the 60's.


I think he published it in the 80's.

So he first published the books and then the videos? Or does this course use someone else's books that were published in 1962?


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Re: Duane Shinn 52 Week Crash Course [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2855490
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

So he first published the books and then the videos? Or does this course use someone else's books that were published in 1962?


The course uses an 8 volume set published by Hal Leonard in 1962 called Modern Pianist Book.

I contacted Hal Leonard to see of I could get the colored copies that Duane uses in the videos and I was told that the books are out of print. I guess Duane has been making his own copies for the course.

God Bless,
David


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Originally Posted by David B
Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

So he first published the books and then the videos? Or does this course use someone else's books that were published in 1962?


The course uses an 8 volume set published by Hal Leonard in 1962 called Modern Pianist Book.

I contacted Hal Leonard to see of I could get the colored copies that Duane uses in the videos, and I was told that the books are out of print. I guess Duane has been making his own copies for the course.

God Bless,
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That's interesting! I had always assumed Duane made his own piano course - I didn't realize he had based his course on an existing series of books. Thanks for the info!


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Yeah. The books were already in print (or maybe out of print) before Duane developed his course.

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Are all the books printed one page off from what he uses in the videos? What appears as an open pair of pages in the video requires a page turn in my book. (I have the trial 4-lesson package.) Not a huge problem of course, but enough to trip over now and then.


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Originally Posted by macuaig
Are all the books printed one page off from what he uses in the videos? What appears as an open pair of pages in the video requires a page turn in my book. (I have the trial 4-lesson package.) Not a huge problem of course, but enough to trip over now and then.



I ran into that a few times, I scan all the songs from the lesson and put them in a binder.

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Are all the books printed one page off from what he uses in the videos? What appears as an open pair of pages in the video requires a page turn in my book. (I have the trial 4-lesson package.) Not a huge problem of course, but enough to trip over now and then.



I ran into that a few times, I scan all the songs from the lesson and put them in a binder.


That's what I did also (photocopy and binder). No page turning on the songs that are +1.

I contacted Duane's office once to inquire about the "pagination issue" to see if I could get the version of the books that Duane has (no page turning) and I was told that page turning was part of learning how to play the piano. laugh

I need 100% of my brain power just to put my fingers on the right keys... there is none to spare for turning pages. smile

God Bless,
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I'm methodically working my way through lesson 39. There are four songs and three are hymns. I'm a little disappointed because I like the hymns and Duane did not teach anything new in this lesson beyond the concept of creating a medley. He mentioned how he could put in chord substitutions and runs, etc., but he didn't show any of that and instead focused on medleys. Therefore, I'm just arranging the songs based on what he's taught so far.

Here is Sun Of My Soul played as written and then arranged. Piano is N1X CFX Grand.



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Does Duane Shinn suggest experimenting with playing the medley with very different styles for each piece in it, vs. playing with similar styles? If not, you might experiment with this. Do you prefer one approach or the other? Are there different circumstances where you might use one approach or the other?


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Originally Posted by PianoStudent88
Does Duane Shinn suggest experimenting with playing the medley with very different styles for each piece in it, vs. playing with similar styles? If not, you might experiment with this. Do you prefer one approach or the other? Are there different circumstances where you might use one approach or the other?


That's a good question. He specifically mentions that we should use different styles for each song in the medley. He talks about styles and dynamics, but does not introduce any new concepts beyond the medley concept. I just decided to take each song by itself. After I've arranged each song I'll probably go back and try the medley per his instruction.

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Your arrangement of Sun of My Soul is beautiful, David.

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Originally Posted by pwl
Your arrangement of Sun of My Soul is beautiful, David.


Praise the Lord!

However, I have to admit that I'm getting just a little bored with the limited arranging techniques covered so far. I feel like I'm ready to do more but I don't have the tools.

There are four songs in this lesson (#39) and three are hymns. I don't feel impressed to arrange one of the hymns because there is nothing new to do with it. Even the one song that's not a hymn Duane went back to the western bass "because we haven't done that in a while." I'll arrange that song because it's good practice with its rhythmically challenging syncopation.

As this course winds down it will be interesting to see what Duane adds to the great foundation that he has already laid.

God Bless,
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Originally Posted by David B
Originally Posted by pwl
Your arrangement of Sun of My Soul is beautiful, David.


Praise the Lord!

However, I have to admit that I'm getting just a little bored with the limited arranging techniques covered so far. I feel like I'm ready to do more but I don't have the tools.

There are four songs in this lesson (#39) and three are hymns. I don't feel impressed to arrange one of the hymns because there is nothing new to do with it. Even the one song that's not a hymn Duane went back to the western bass "because we haven't done that in a while." I'll arrange that song because it's good practice with its rhythmically challenging syncopation.

As this course winds down it will be interesting to see what Duane adds to the great foundation that he has already laid.

God Bless,
David

Have you taken a peek ahead at the hymn course to see if he adds new techniques there?

And congrats on approaching the "wind down" phase of the course! I'm confident you will be in the less than 5% (my wild guess) that actually finish this entire course! whome wow No dropping out of anything, for you! thumb whistle yippie


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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Have you taken a peek ahead at the hymn course to see if he adds new techniques there?


I haven't looked ahead at the Praise and Gospel series. My mind works better in a linear fashion and I have to follow the instructions precisely. My wife says a dominate character trait in me is "all or nothing." grin

Duane said that the 52 Week course was the foundation for the Praise and Gospel series so my mind won't let me do anything until I finish the 52 week course.

I suspect that more advanced techniques will be covered in the Praise and Gospel series based on how it was advertised on Duane's site.

Thanks for the encouragement.

God Bless,
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