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I finally had a chance to play a Kawai MP11SE at my local Guitar Center (quite surprised they had one). It's a great piano, but with one annoyance: my fingers keep hitting the "fallboard" (the panel behind the keys)! The only other digital I have run into this problem with is the Casio GP300. This is no fault of the MP11SE, as the same issue exists with grand pianos. I grew up playing uprights without fallboards, so I did not experience this issue often on acoustic pianos.

I guess one advantage with digital pianos is that most have a recessed cover or no cover at all, eliminating finger collisions.


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Originally Posted by jon123
I finally had a chance to play a Kawai MP11SE at my local Guitar Center (quite surprised they had one). It's a great piano, but with one annoyance: my fingers keep hitting the "fallboard" (the panel behind the keys)! The only other digital I have run into this problem with is the Casio GP300. This is no fault of the MP11SE, as the same issue exists with grand pianos. I grew up playing uprights without fallboards, so I did not experience this issue often on acoustic pianos.

What you describe in the MP11SE's design is an important advantage for me. I wrote about that "fallboard" effect here and here.

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I guess one advantage with digital pianos is that most have a recessed cover or no cover at all, eliminating finger collisions.

I have absolutely the opposite opinion: this is a clear drawback for me, because I want to keep my technique correct, because performance on acoustic pianos is the main thing for me, since I am a pianist, not a keyboardist.

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there are also numerous people who have reported here that resting their fingers on the non-fallboard of some Casios and Rolands have caused them to inadvertently hit the buttons that tend to be placed there.

Some Roland DPs allow the key cover rest over the buttons and create a mock fallboard, hiding the buttons from view (and from being inadvertently activated).


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Originally Posted by 9190

What you describe in the MP11SE's design is an important advantage for me. I wrote about that "fallboard" effect here and here.

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I guess one advantage with digital pianos is that most have a recessed cover or no cover at all, eliminating finger collisions.

I have absolutely the opposite opinion: this is a clear drawback for me, because I want to keep my technique correct, because performance on acoustic pianos is the main thing for me, since I am a pianist, not a keyboardist.

Fingers hitting the fallboard has nothing to do with bad technique. This is actually common among pianists. Some of us also have larger hands (and fingers!) than others.

If the piano does not have a fallboard, there is not any functional reason to place a panel so close to the edge of the keys. However, I will admit that it makes the piano look very nice.

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Originally Posted by jon123
Fingers hitting the fallboard has nothing to do with bad technique. This is actually common among pianists. Some of us also have larger hands (and fingers!) than others.

I know that video, it just proves, what I wrote in my previous post. First I even thought to bring this link in my first post. So, again, for me, being an experienced pianist, this "fallboard" element is very important and essential.

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I don't understand. How does the commonness of fallboard scratches lead to the conclusion that the fallboard is important and essential?
It seems to me that the lack of a fallboard would be beneficial, as in ... no more scratches.

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I don't understand. How does the commonness of fallboard scratches lead to the conclusion that the fallboard is important and essential?
It seems to me that the lack of a fallboard would be beneficial, as in ... no more scratches.

LOL. I am getting the feeling that having a fallboard is like those VSTs that simulate out-of-tune strings, key/action/pedal noise, or other idiosyncrasies of acoustical pianos - to make it seem more "realistic!"


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I guess the point is that it's something you will get used to. I notice too often that I hit my fallboard, but I know it happens (though not to the extent that they show in the video!).


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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I don't understand. How does the commonness of fallboard scratches lead to the conclusion that the fallboard is important and essential?
It seems to me that the lack of a fallboard would be beneficial, as in ... no more scratches.

That video just proves, that pianists touch that fallboard. It means, they feel that fallboard. That fallboard doesn't allow them to go too deep into keys. So, I want to feel the same on digital piano, I want to feel mentally and physically that "fallboard" effect, because when I'm practicing on digital piano, I'm practicing for performing on real acoustic grand. If I would be keyboardist, or even amatour pianist, then probably I woudn't care.

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I notice too often that I hit my fallboard, but I know it happens (though not to the extent that they show in the video!).
Oh yes, I have never seen such a thing, either in a music school, or in a music college, or in a conservatory. In the video it looks like some monster was playing.

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Well just looked at my old upright (it's still here, unusable but still here) and there are no marks although the varnish is a bit crazed. The fall-board actually slopes away from the keys for the first inch or so, but from the looks of the marks on that Steinway in the video, whoever was playing it would probably have scratched the inner edge of the lid on mine. That'd cramp his style wink

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OMG... those fallboards in the video look like someone took an axe to them!

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I find this interesting. I don't think I touch the fallboard at all when playing a grand. Perhaps there's the odd collision which I don't notice.

I used to have accidents where my fingers would slip off the keys. When a finger collided with the outside of a key, that could be painful.


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