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Casio CDP-S100 making GO:PIANO obsolete?
#2854757 06/01/19 09:31 PM
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Here in my market the Casio CDP-S100 sells for $550 CAN

The Roland GO:PIANO 88 sells for $559 and the
Roland GO:PIANO sells for $399

Out of these 3 , only the Casio has weighted keyboard ( scaled hammer action keyboard ll )

Polyphony is better on the Roland's 128 compared to 64.

For many years seems entry level digital piano's main disadvantage is the non weighted keyboards with less than 88 keys.

Casio has changed that now, maybe Roland, Yamaha, Korg will take notice and improve their keyboard actions in future entry level digital piano's ?

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I think CDP-S100 is the same price as the CDP models that preceded it. It's better, but fundamentally, nothing has changed in the positioning of these products.

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FWIW --

I think there will always be a market for short-keyboard, lightweight easy-to-carry keyboards. Yamaha PSR-series and the Go:Keys and Go:Piano are examples. The Go:Piano 88 isn't "short keyboard", but it's lightweight. You can have "weighted keys", or "light weight", but not both (yet).

The CDP S100 is 23 pounds (roughly), and its competition is probably the new Casio S1000 and the PX-160 (if that's still in production).

There's no real secret, I think, in making an inexpensive, decent-feeling weighted action. There _does_ seem to be a limit on how lightweight it can be.


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Originally Posted by tesladan
For many years seems entry level digital piano's main disadvantage is the non weighted keyboards with less than 88 keys.


On the other hand for many years there has been "entry level" digital pianos with 88 weighted keys: The Casio CDP series since the CDP-100, Yamaha's cheapest P model always with "20 years old technology" etc.

And on yet another hand if it's an entry level keyboard with less than 88 keys and the keys are not weighted then it really isn't a digital piano at all. smile

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I owned a CDP100 in 2005. Relatively nice keyboard action for the price. Was the cheapest hammer action back then, maybe €550 if I remember correctly. The sounds were cr*p even for 2005 standards but it had DIN MIDI and I used it with Synthogy Ivory 1 back then and recorded many of my composition from that time. It was 11kg and had speakers and I even used it for a few gigs. It could fit the front seat of my car floor to roof without reclining the seat smile There was GO:PIANO competition 14 years before GO:PIANO smile

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I played the cdp-s100 in bestbuy and I also own the Roland GO piano at home. Absolutely no comparison. The GO piano is a mushy keyboard action with very little control. The S100 is really great action. The only problem is the price, I think the one in bestbuy was $680 CAD while the previous CDP could be had for $450 or so. For $700 I would think twice about getting CDP-S, just throw in a hundred or so and you can have the new privia with much better samples.

I used to have CDP 200 - I bought it for $50 then sold it for I think $250. Very fair for that price (even for $250) They should lower the CDP-S price, I think $450 would fit.


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The S100 is really great action. The only problem is the price, I think the one in bestbuy was $680 CAD while the previous CDP could be had for $450 or so. For $700 I would think twice about getting CDP-S, just throw in a hundred or so and you can have the new privia with much better samples.


The Canadian pricing sure is weird if there is only a $100 difference between the CDP-S100 and the PX-S1000. The US street prices for the two models are $299 and $599 respectively. Even in my country, the list prices (including GST/VAT but before discounts) are about $500 and $800.

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Haven't seen the PX-S for sale here personally but sweetwater price is $600 which is about $800 something CAD. I am pretty sure almost no brick and mortar stores would carry the PX-S here anyway so it has to be online anyhow. Even the older Privias PX-160 has to be ordered from costco or amazon as most of the music stores completely ignore casio. (and I've seen PX160 for $499 CAD in costco with the pedals and stand - which was pretty sweet)
I've got my Px860 online as well for $999 as there was no single store that would have it. In toronto cosmo music sells some casio - don't know how much they charge for px-s - well I checked it - it is $799 - really moot point for the bestbuy CDP-S for $680. Cosmo music is actually great place. Always go there when visiting toronto. Sometimes they have crazy deals like roland boutique module for $120 etc... and they do illy coffee inside. What not to like? But it is rare in canada - most music stores deal in overpriced yamaha/roands/korgs and that's it.

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Cosmo music prices

Casio PSX-S1000 $799 CAN
Casio CDP-S100 . $599 CAN

Long & McQuade does not carry Casio but music stores here in my area feel Casio is garbage

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https://www.long-mcquade.com/?page=search&SearchTxt=casio


Why do they sell it if they feel it is garbage. Can't take them to serious as a store


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Originally Posted by tesladan
Cosmo music prices

Casio PSX-S1000 $799 CAN
Casio CDP-S100 . $599 CAN $550 CAN

Long & McQuade does not carry Casio but music stores here in my area feel Casio is garbage

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https://www.long-mcquade.com/?page=search&SearchTxt=casio


Why do they sell it if they feel it is garbage. Can't take them to serious as a store


I don't think THEY sell it. It is the same trick like bestbuy does on their site. Not actually carry any stock. When you order it it will come directly from casio not from them.
I had never ever seen any privia in Long McQuade and I am not sure I will. There is probably very low margin for them to actually have one in stock.

It is hard for casio to rebrand themselves. Two decades of selling the cheap kids keyboards leave long lasting impression. They are basically trying to pick a fight with Yamaha and that is an uphill battle.

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