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Tyrone Slothrop, when I was in college and graduate school, I wore contacts for several years. It was nice to experience not wearing glasses. The best thing was being able to look up into a snowstorm and see the flakes coming down. Eventually I got tired of fussing with cleaning them (they were traditional soft lenses). So I stopped.

I’ve always been leary about extended-wear lenses, though, so even though I know there are new options, I’m not itching to go back. Even if it would reduce my collection of computer/piano/flute glasses to zero :-) .


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...multifocal contact lenses?


Yes. And my current script is working out well.
In the past I've had varying results.

Since good vision was the norm for most of my life, I still think contacts are kind of a nuisance, but juggling between bifocals and 2 different strengths of readers is a way bigger nuisance.

I was bummed when I did a trial of several brands of daily disposables last year and couldn't get adequate correction.


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...multifocal contact lenses?


Yes. And my current script is working out well.

Good for you!

I just feel like I should be a proselytizer about multi-focal contacts. As you and I know, if one doesn't have severe astigmatism, they work great and it certainly beats having to have 2-4 different pairs of glasses.

I doubt multiple pairs of glasses would even work for me, logistically speaking. I'd lose one or more of the pairs in the first two weeks!


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It’s interesting how different we are. I’ve worn glasses since I was seven, I’m ecstatic that I adjusted to my bifocals so quickly, and the icing on the cake is that I can get specialized glasses for my specialized glasses needs.

When I was in seventh grade I did a school report on the eye, especially nearsightedness and farsightedness. I found out that people in different professions sometimes have specialty needs for their glasses, with non-standard types of prescriptions or arrangements of multiple prescriptions in one pair, besides just the normal bifocal.

I think I’ve been waiting my whole life to get to have specialty glasses like I learned about then, and my computer/piano/flute glasses scratch that itch nicely :-).


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I work 3 days a month doing IT work for a laser eye company. This is my only employment which I do for fun rather than for the money (I am 68 and otherwise retired). I had my eyes laser treated three years ago (having not warn glasses until age 40 when my eyesight deteriorated and I had to wear progressively stronger glasses until about age 60 when the prescription stabilized and I had varifocals lenses). With presbyopia it was not possible to perfectly fix my eyes, but I had what is called monovision (each eye has a slightly different treatment) to give me a range from infinity to about 2 feet. I still needed reading glasses for close work.

In the past three years my eyes have started to change a bit more, and I now need reading glasses for my computer work and playing the piano. The good news is that I can buy the multipack cheap reading glasses from Amazon, and I now have about 20 pairs at strategic places around the house and in various bags I use for wallet, or laptop, or just simple notebook for working. About 6 months ago they did another eye test on me and recommended some driving glasses with a low prescription and a slight difference in the axis. These are the only glasses I had to buy but I refused all options for different coatings and the end they cost about £60. They live in the car - but I also wear them into the supermarket when we do our weekly shop so I can read the labels.

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Originally Posted by akc42
I work 3 days a month doing IT work for a laser eye company. This is my only employment which I do for fun rather than for the money (I am 68 and otherwise retired). I had my eyes laser treated three years ago (having not warn glasses until age 40 when my eyesight deteriorated and I had to wear progressively stronger glasses until about age 60 when the prescription stabilized and I had varifocals lenses). With presbyopia it was not possible to perfectly fix my eyes, but I had what is called monovision (each eye has a slightly different treatment) to give me a range from infinity to about 2 feet. I still needed reading glasses for close work.

In the past three years my eyes have started to change a bit more, and I now need reading glasses for my computer work and playing the piano. The good news is that I can buy the multipack cheap reading glasses from Amazon, and I now have about 20 pairs at strategic places around the house and in various bags I use for wallet, or laptop, or just simple notebook for working. About 6 months ago they did another eye test on me and recommended some driving glasses with a low prescription and a slight difference in the axis. These are the only glasses I had to buy but I refused all options for different coatings and the end they cost about £60. They live in the car - but I also wear them into the supermarket when we do our weekly shop so I can read the labels.

I am glad this works for you, but having so many pairs of glasses would be my nightmare. I can't imagine how I would do it. Ugh...


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I'm a new glasses wearer. I have reading glasses and distance glasses. I can't use my peripheral vision effectilvely at the piano, as different parts of the keyboard seem like they're different distances away. I can still manage fine with no glasses, but I might consider contacts when the time comes.

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I'm a new glasses wearer. I have reading glasses and distance glasses. I can't use my peripheral vision effectilvely at the piano, as different parts of the keyboard seem like they're different distances away. I can still manage fine with no glasses, but I might consider contacts when the time comes.

With multifocal contacts, adjustment is below the level of your notice. Your brain just directs your eyes semi-automatically. I might have had issues the first 24 hours I ever used multi-focal contacts, but that was already ages ago.


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I already wear glasses, and can't do anything without them. I dread the day I have to switch to bifocals like my father, or separate glasses for near and far. (Contacts are not an option for me, unfortunately.) I hate the thought of getting older, but I guess it's better than the alternative.


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I'm a new glasses wearer. I have reading glasses and distance glasses. I can't use my peripheral vision effectilvely at the piano, as different parts of the keyboard seem like they're different distances away. I can still manage fine with no glasses, but I might consider contacts when the time comes.

With multifocal contacts, adjustment is below the level of your notice. Your brain just directs your eyes semi-automatically. I might have had issues the first 24 hours I ever used multi-focal contacts, but that was already ages ago.


Thanks Tyrone. I'll look into that!

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rogers
I already wear glasses, and can't do anything without them. I dread the day I have to switch to bifocals like my father, or separate glasses for near and far. (Contacts are not an option for me, unfortunately.) I hate the thought of getting older, but I guess it's better than the alternative.


I've done the usual going long sighted thing as I've got older but that is layered on top of astigmatism.

I find vari-focals work well for most situations. I should have a reading glasses prescription in the lower part but I have the same prescription as my computer glasses and I can drive with them, do most things around the house, read most of what I need to. The things I can't do is play any sport, read small print like on my medication and then it is awkward to use them on my computer or playing a piano. Sport like table tennis is a disaster, much better actually using my computer glasses, even if the ball and person at the other end is blurry the ball comes into focus when near me but its behaviour is predictable. But the vari-focals make its path unpredictable and I just miss the ball completely.

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I already wear glasses, and can't do anything without them. I dread the day I have to switch to bifocals like my father, or separate glasses for near and far. (Contacts are not an option for me, unfortunately.) I hate the thought of getting older, but I guess it's better than the alternative.


I've done the usual going long sighted thing as I've got older but that is layered on top of astigmatism.

I find vari-focals work well for most situations. I should have a reading glasses prescription in the lower part but I have the same prescription as my computer glasses and I can drive with them, do most things around the house, read most of what I need to. The things I can't do is play any sport, read small print like on my medication and then it is awkward to use them on my computer or playing a piano. Sport like table tennis is a disaster, much better actually using my computer glasses, even if the ball and person at the other end is blurry the ball comes into focus when near me but its behaviour is predictable. But the vari-focals make its path unpredictable and I just miss the ball completely.

If like WeakLeftHand, you have strong astigmatism, then multifocal contacts won't obviate the need for glasses at altogether, as it does for me, since I only have weak astigmatism. But in my case, I can play any sport at any distance since my brain automatically adjusts my vision to look through the appropriate part of the contact lenses most suitable for the distance that I'm looking. For me, it's better than when I was young, as when I was a kid, I needed glasses and would refuse to wear them since I thought they made me even more geeky than I already was. Now I can see things I couldn't when I was a kid. And playing beach volleyball has not been a problem.


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If like WeakLeftHand, you have strong astigmatism, then multifocal contacts won't obviate the need for glasses at altogether, as it does for me, since I only have weak astigmatism. But in my case, I can play any sport at any distance since my brain automatically adjusts my vision to look through the appropriate part of the contact lenses most suitable for the distance that I'm looking. For me, it's better than when I was young, as when I was a kid, I needed glasses and would refuse to wear them since I thought they made me even more geeky than I already was. Now I can see things I couldn't when I was a kid. And playing beach volleyball has not been a problem.


To clarify, I don't think I have "strong" astigmatism, just enough to put me over the edge of "I need to correct for it now". This new prescription to correct for astigmatism was given to me last month. Previous to that, we didn't correct for it. It was previously cylinder (CYL) -0.5 in both eyes, now it's -0.75. That little jump put me over the edge of needing to correct for it. I don't think that's considered "strong", although I really have no idea. smile


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If like WeakLeftHand, you have strong astigmatism, then multifocal contacts won't obviate the need for glasses at altogether, as it does for me, since I only have weak astigmatism. But in my case, I can play any sport at any distance since my brain automatically adjusts my vision to look through the appropriate part of the contact lenses most suitable for the distance that I'm looking. For me, it's better than when I was young, as when I was a kid, I needed glasses and would refuse to wear them since I thought they made me even more geeky than I already was. Now I can see things I couldn't when I was a kid. And playing beach volleyball has not been a problem.
To clarify, I don't think I have "strong" astigmatism, just enough to put me over the edge of "I need to correct for it now". This new prescription to correct for astigmatism was given to me last month. Previous to that, we didn't correct for it. It was previously cylinder (CYL) -0.5 in both eyes, now it's -0.75. That little jump put me over the edge of needing to correct for it. I don't think that's considered "strong", although I really have no idea. smile

That's odd. My astigmatism is a bit strong than yours, then. I gave up correcting for it when I went to multifocals. What happens when you don't correct for it and just use normal multifocals? There are certain distances where you just can't see and need glasses? For me, it's not sharp, but I can see well enough to not need glasses. (It will never be sharp unless I can correct the astigmatism, but I just live with it.)


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If like WeakLeftHand, you have strong astigmatism, then multifocal contacts won't obviate the need for glasses at altogether, as it does for me, since I only have weak astigmatism. But in my case, I can play any sport at any distance since my brain automatically adjusts my vision to look through the appropriate part of the contact lenses most suitable for the distance that I'm looking. For me, it's better than when I was young, as when I was a kid, I needed glasses and would refuse to wear them since I thought they made me even more geeky than I already was. Now I can see things I couldn't when I was a kid. And playing beach volleyball has not been a problem.
To clarify, I don't think I have "strong" astigmatism, just enough to put me over the edge of "I need to correct for it now". This new prescription to correct for astigmatism was given to me last month. Previous to that, we didn't correct for it. It was previously cylinder (CYL) -0.5 in both eyes, now it's -0.75. That little jump put me over the edge of needing to correct for it. I don't think that's considered "strong", although I really have no idea. smile

That's odd. My astigmatism is a bit strong than yours, then. I gave up correcting for it when I went to multifocals. What happens when you don't correct for it and just use normal multifocals? There are certain distances where you just can't see and need glasses? For me, it's not sharp, but I can see well enough to not need glasses. (It will never be sharp unless I can correct the astigmatism, but I just live with it.)


The biggest problem is that I cannot drive because I cannot read road signs properly. A big STOP sign I have no problem with, but it's the street name signs, or other instruction signs that I have a problem with.

So currently, I use multifocals in a monovision configuration. The left eye is corrected best for far vision, and the right eye is corrected best for near vision. I have found this configuration offers me the best for near and far, but the very near and very far are still not clear enough.

I think to get perfection for me, I'd have to have a pair of contacts strictly for myopia and astigmatism, and then get one or more pairs of straight reading glasses on top, as I need them, but my optometrist is not very fond of that configuration, because he says I'm too young to let people know I need reading glasses. Hahaha, he's more vain than I am! But yeah, needing reading glasses kind of puts you into the "old age" category. But it is what it is.

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So currently, I use multifocals in a monovision configuration. The left eye is corrected best for far vision, and the right eye is corrected best for near vision. I have found this configuration offers me the best for near and far, but the very near and very far is still not clear enough.

Oh. I get it. Now that is very interesting. I didn't even know such a monovision configuration was possible. My multifocal contact lenses each correct for both presbyopia and myopia, but not astigmatism, for each eye. So my corrected vision is the same for each eye, with the exception of astigmatism (my astigmatism is different in each eye). The corrected result for each eye is that I have close to 20/20 in each eye, regardless of distance, with the exception of some blurriness from the astigmatism - more in one eye than the other.

Now, if I were to have lasik surgery, I know I would have to get monovision correction like you have, but with contacts, I can just have each lens correct for both presbyopia and myopia. I've been hesitant to get lasik only because I have a cousin who had monovision correction and never adjusted to it and had to get a second procedure done.


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So currently, I use multifocals in a monovision configuration. The left eye is corrected best for far vision, and the right eye is corrected best for near vision. I have found this configuration offers me the best for near and far, but the very near and very far is still not clear enough.

Oh. I get it. Now that is very interesting. I didn't even know such a monovision configuration was possible. My multifocal contact lenses each correct for both presbyopia and myopia, but not astigmatism, for each eye. So my corrected vision is the same for each eye, with the exception of astigmatism (my astigmatism is different in each eye). The corrected result for each eye is that I have close to 20/20 in each eye, regardless of distance, with the exception of some blurriness from the astigmatism - more in one eye than the other.

Now, if I were to have lasik surgery, I know I would have to get monovision correction like you have, but with contacts, I can just have each lens correct for both presbyopia and myopia. I've been hesitant to get lasik only because I have a cousin who had monovision correction and never adjusted to it and had to get a second procedure done.


Yeah, multifocals and monovision are weird things. They don't work the same for everyone. I started with multifocals without monovision like you, and that didn't work for me. So my optometrist suggested monovision. But he also says that different multifocal lenses work differently, so while one brand might work for a person, another might not.

I, too, haven't gotten lasik because I'm afraid of its permanence, especially if it turns out not working like your cousin!

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I too have several glasses that work with both piano and pc. But I need much stronger glasses to watch tv or outside (if I want to see any texts further away). Recently I have noticed I cannot read very small text anymore with my right eye, so I would need reading glasses for that one. The left one is fine with small things, just cannot see further away. So cannot buy a pair of cheap reading glasses...unless I completely remove the other lense smile

Even with my piano glasses I need very good lighting. I have never found contacts that are not uncomfortable, so gave up. Probably the best since my eyes are also very dry (like a sahara desert as my optician says)...

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I wore monovision contacts for years, right eye far, left eye near. My other hobby is orienteering, which is not well known in the states but is in Scandinavia - running through the woods with a map and a compass. So I used one eye to read the map and one eye to see where I was going...

Did not work well for piano though.

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I believe that once you are past fifty, you need an extra pair of reading glasses for each decade you age for all the things you want to do.

So, you need one for general reading, one for your laptop, one for your desk computer, one for upright, one for grand, two for watching inflight movies (depending on whether your - or the seat in front - is inclined).

So, I am about 120 years old.......


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